Limbaugh: Obama a "classic case of affirmative action rearing it's ugly head"

[WickedLou9]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

No, it's fact. His color was huge in his success. That's not to say his intelligence didn't help, of course it did. But again, give his credentials to any other person, would they have gotten 98% of the black vote and beaten Hillary? No way.

He hasn't even finished his first term in office. He is woefully lacking in experience. All you have are his words to know what he is and will do. You have no proof of what he did prior to back up his words. And he has already back peddled on plenty of things he has said he was going to do.

So you lack experience if you havn't held elected office? You are aware that he went to harvard, was a professor in constituional law, held a number of other jobs... I think the fact that he hasn't been soiled yet by washington politics is actually a good thing. He has plenty of experience.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Swift-Bass

Then why didn't he just say, "I don't know. But I support a womans right to chose"? Or was he trying to make it so he could ...

Why should he have to answer a complicated issue with an oversimplified answer like McCain? It's not that easy of a question.

McCain answered what he thought people wanted to hear, Obama answered what he actually felt.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

So you lack experience if you havn't held elected office? You are aware that he went to harvard, was a professor in constituional law, held a number of other jobs... I think the fact that he hasn't been soiled yet by washington politics is actually a good thing. He has plenty of experience.

To most Republicans, having received an excellent education is actually a downside.

They don't want people who are smart and capable and have proven their intellect and capabilities through a rigorous education at the nations top institutions, they want actors and other people "dumbed down" so they don't have to come to deal with the reality that there are people more exceptional than they are.

Because, being exceptional makes you elitist. And we don't want elitists in the "hardest job in the world."

In other words, he's not qualified because he has more qualifications than John McCain when it comes to intellectual ability.

Btw Tank, if anyone's likely to be accustomed to arugula, it'd be John McCain and his multi-multi-multi millionaire wife, not the guy who just recently got done paying off his student loans.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

George Washington too. Since he was there when they kinda put the whole United States deal together. He's not running either I don't think.

He's not alive (which is a big requirement).

Why can't you just answer the question?

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

So you lack experience if you havn't held elected office? You are aware that he went to harvard, was a professor in constituional law, held a number of other jobs... I think the fact that he hasn't been soiled yet by washington politics is actually a good thing. He has plenty of experience.

My old boss graduated from Harvard. He would piss all over the bathroom floor. So much so that the chrome plated drain cover in the middle of the floor started to rust.

In other words, his degree from Harvard wasn't able to even able help him piss straight. So it means nothing to me. I could talk over his head in most subjects except finance and math.

Sounds like Obama would be a good teacher, not president.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Scrum

He's not alive (which is a big requirement).

Why can't you just answer the question?

He has as much chance as winning as do Bush and Carter since none of the 3 are running.

[7960]

Originally Posted by motivez

Bush was more of a ceremonial governor than anything.

and what do you call a first-term junior senator?

[7960]

Originally Posted by motivez

Get a younger, intelligent white guy with the same ability to give a great speech that inspires people to get behind his cause, and I think they could have defeated Hillary just like Obama did

I disagree.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by 7960

I disagree.

John Edwards. 0 and 2.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by 7960

and what do you call a first-term junior senator?

I grew up in Texas, the position of Governor is not like the position in other states..

[motivez]

Originally Posted by 7960

I disagree.

We'll never be able to prove it either way, so it's probably best to just agree to disagree on that point.

I just think people are sick of the way things in Washington are now, so having some relative outsider who promises to help end the partisan divide over someone with lots of baggage, someone who gives a great speech, etc, etc.. is more important than the color of his skin.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

My old boss graduated from Harvard. He would piss all over the bathroom floor. So much so that the chrome plated drain cover in the middle of the floor started to rust.

In other words, his degree from Harvard wasn't able to even able help him piss straight. So it means nothing to me. I could talk over his head in most subjects except finance and math.

What was his degree from Harvard in?

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by motivez

What was his degree from Harvard in?

The affects of urine on metal.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

The affects of urine on metal.

[Swift-Bass]

Originally Posted by motivez

His incredible campaign team is a product of his leadership, is it not?

Not. He does not write the majority of his speeches and does not do well at all without something pre-written. He's alos not running the campaign. He's hired people to do that for him. He did pick people that have done a good job. But he also picked friends like William Ares, Tony Resco and Rev Wright. So what does that tell us about his judgement?

His exceptional oratory skills and ability to inspire people to get on board is certainly a quality of a good leader. If people don't want to follow your vision, you can't take anyone anywhere.

Excellent point...so why is he tied with McCain in almost all polls as of today?

I disagree completely. His ability to give a great speech put him on the national stage, not the color of his skin. We've had other candidates who were black run for President, and they didn't get nearly as far.. because they didn't inspire people the way Obama as a leader does.

Look at the kind of experience Kennedy had before he became President. It wasn't all that different. Casting votes in the Senate isn't necessarily a qualification, so if you want to negate Obama's Senatorial experience because it's not "executive" experience, you have to negate John McCain's as well.

So you're going to tell me that getting 97%+ of the black vote had nothing to do with him being black? Can you show me anothe democratic nominee that got that much of the black vote? Again, I'm not saying color is the only thing. But it's what put him over the edge to beat Hillary.

At least we can look at Obama's record in running the Harvard Law Review.. what exactly has McCain ever lead that ever tested him?

Ok, can you please show me some of his papers or his record of executive decisions that benefited the school? I'd be interested to see them.

Originally Posted by motivez

People who follow politics a lot, the same people who typically vote in primaries had heard of Obama and thought he might run.. He gave an amazing speech that really fired people up at the DNC.

And how many of the people that voted in the primary really rememberd that speech? I'm not saying he didn't do well. I'm saying four years later, except for the die-hards, who's going to remember that?

Originally Posted by motivez

Sharing (or not sharing) your moral values has nothing to do with a qualification to be President.

I happen to think it does. Considering he's in charge of the largest military on the planet. Can issue executive orders to do many things in ths country without congressional approval(legally) and has the power to sign or veto bills that effect my life. Especially when it comes to who they would reccomend for the Supreme Court.

It's something science will have to answer for us, we shouldn't be subjected to thousand year old superstition about an invisible man in the sky to answer scientific questions for us.

I take it you're an atheist. that's fine.

Originally Posted by motivez

Why should he have to answer a complicated issue with an oversimplified answer like McCain? It's not that easy of a question.

McCain answered what he thought people wanted to hear, Obama answered what he actually felt.

But a much better answer would have been "I don't know. but I respect a woman's right to chose" That gives him a scientific out without sounding like he's just dancing.

Also, that IS what McCain believes and has said so on many occasions. I have to say that is was Obama that was trying to play to that particular audience.

One more major point. If you were on the board of directors for say, Nike corporation. Would you want someone that has been on the board, not even a VP, of a smaller company for less then a year as your new President and CEO of Nike? I know I wouldn't.

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

My old boss graduated from Harvard. He would piss all over the bathroom floor. So much so that the chrome plated drain cover in the middle of the floor started to rust.

In other words, his degree from Harvard wasn't able to even able help him piss straight. So it means nothing to me. I could talk over his head in most subjects except finance and math.

Sounds like Obama would be a good teacher, not president.

If your old boss was running for president, he would likely appoint someone to help approach the urinal properly and to avoid rust on the fashionable chrome drain in the floor. That way he can stick to what he knows, finance and math. He will even have advisors for his finance and math too.

Barack might not be able to piss in the foreign policy urinal, but he has Joe Biden there to hold his willy straight. He will have someone there to hold or help his unit at the military urinal, his economic urinal, healthcare urinal, etc...that way we don't get any piss on the drain.

The executive branch is a team.

[Swift-Bass]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

The executive branch is a team.

This is true, but if the head-coach doesn't have a clue or refuses to listen to his staff how effective can the team be?