College Team mates: Allen used the N-word often towards blacks

Thorgrim · 09-24-2006, 09:25 PM

"Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place,'" said Dr. Ken Shelton, a white radiologist in North Carolina who played tight end for the University of Virginia football team when Allen was quarterback. "He used the N-word on a regular basis back then."

A second white teammate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared retribution from the Allen campaign, separately claimed that Allen used the word "nigger" to describe blacks. "It was so common with George when he was among his white friends. This is the terminology he used," the teammate said.

Shelton said he also remembers a disturbing deer hunting trip with Allen on land that was owned by the family of Billy Lanahan, a wide receiver on the team. After they had killed a deer, Shelton said he remembers Allen asking Lanahan where the local black residents lived. Shelton said Allen then drove the three of them to that neighborhood with the severed head of the deer. "He proceeded to take the doe's head and stuff it into a mailbox," Shelton said.

Teammates: Allen used "N-word" in college | Salon News

I think this is the story that is going to break him...

Anyway, to any defenders that might crop up:

1) He was older then than many of you are (He was 21)

2) He was from California and Chicago, not the deep south, and his father was a rich coach, so this wasn't some bad habit he was trying to drop, it was a mentality he developed and kept with him through college

motivez · 09-24-2006, 09:32 PM

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Oh man, if this gets picked up by the MSM or even the papers in VA he's finished..

kinggovernor · 09-24-2006, 09:37 PM

Thorgrim · 09-24-2006, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

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Oh man, if this gets picked up by the MSM or even the papers in VA he's finished..

Salon isn't like drudge or anything, I think I mean they have one guy ON RECORD so I don't see why it wouldn't get picked up

Thorgrim · 09-24-2006, 09:52 PM

I am hearing stuff on the blogosphere that VA activists are going to try and find the house where they stuffed the deer and call it a felony hate crime

kinggovernor · 09-24-2006, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Salon isn't like drudge or anything, I think I mean they have one guy ON RECORD so I don't see why it wouldn't get picked up

maybe he is a rabid democrat

I haven't followed this race at all

Thorgrim · 09-24-2006, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

maybe he is a rabid democrat I haven't followed this race at all

3 team mates are rabid democrats? In VA? And no one denies it?

JaJae · 09-24-2006, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I think this is the story that is going to break him...

I don't think there was a black man in VA planning to vote for him before this story, but anyone who reads it is definitely not now. Everyone already knows he's a racist, I don't think there's much doubt about that. The Dems did a good job bringing that up.

I hope he doesn't win.

kinggovernor · 09-24-2006, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

3 team mates are rabid democrats? In VA? And no one denies it?

I have no idea, I thought we were talking about why it hasn't been picked up by major news outlets

Thorgrim · 09-24-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

I have no idea, I thought we were talking about why it hasn't been picked up by major news outlets

The story literally got posted an hour ago

The Macaca story took DAYS before Nightly News picked it up

The Washington Post "broke" the story...3 days after it was posted on DailyKos

ballz2wallz · 09-25-2006, 06:41 AM

Who cares what the man did in college. We've all done/said things we wouldn't otherwise say as we have grown up. Bush did drugs and was an alcoholic. Who cares...

motivez · 09-25-2006, 08:09 AM

Considering the racism is still present today, I think it matters enough to care

kinggovernor · 09-25-2006, 08:20 AM

In addition to the three who said Allen used the word "nigger," two others who were contacted said they remember being bothered by Allen's displaying the Confederate flag in college, but said they do not remember him acting in an overtly racist manner. Seven others said they did not know Allen well outside the football team, but do not remember Allen demonstrating any racist feelings. A separate seven teammates and friends said they knew Allen well and did not believe he held racist views. "I don't believe he was insensitive," said Paul Ryczek, who played center in Allen's year before joining the Atlanta Falcons. "He had no prejudices, biases or anything else."

at least post both sides

Thorgrim · 09-25-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

at least post both sides

Any money says the guys who don't remember were the other guys who were saying n***** a lot

"yeah mom, i just told this reporter our family was racist in college, and that senator we both like, i told he's racist too, btw i also told them you were a whore"

ballz2wallz · 09-25-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Considering the racism is still present today, I think it matters enough to care

So that should be enough to worry about; like I said, who cares about what he did in college.

lew · 09-25-2006, 10:21 AM

This shit just keeps going on and on, round in circles.

"KKK Byrd." - Democrats hate this, but then sprout off this shit about Allen saying nigger. This is sofa king we Todd did.

Publius · 09-25-2006, 10:24 AM

Even worse is the smear machine attacking Kinky Friedman now that he is actually doing well in the polls here. They're attacking him for saying it 26 years ago in a COMEDY ROUTINE that was LAMPOONING racism.

hsmith · 09-25-2006, 10:30 AM

I could care less what happened 30 years ago if he is a different person now.

Much like i could care less about Webb's paper about women in the miltary.

Phantom · 09-25-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Publius

Even worse is the smear machine attacking Kinky Friedman now that he is actually doing well in the polls here. They're attacking him for saying it 26 years ago in a COMEDY ROUTINE that was LAMPOONING racism.

I'd be most worried about a governor with the name "kinky"

Publius · 09-25-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Phantom

I'd be most worried about a governor with the name "kinky"

Minnesota elected a wrestler, California elected an actor that can barely speak english... I don't see why Texas shouldn't elect a comedian with a funny name.