Palin's interview with Katie Couric

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I bet iminwonderland doesn't study before any oral

No way. I just let it blow....I mean...flow....

Never underestimate the value of improvisation.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by Scrum

Biden made a slip about clean coal the other day and the McCain campaign ran out and made 2 ads using it.


YouTube - Clean Coal Virginia
YouTube - Clean Coal Ohio


I guess they think they should be off limits, but the other side is free games.

Already taken care of by the brilliant folks at fact check

FactCheck.org: Not Coming Clean on Coal

Obama-Biden campaign spokesman David Wade later said, in responding to McCain campaign criticism of the remark, that Biden was comparing what China was doing to what we should do about coal pollution here in the U.S. "Senator Biden’s point is that China is building coal plants with outdated technology every day, and the United States needs to lead by developing clean coal technologies," Wade said.

John McCain: This dishonesty that we can distrust

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by Swift-Bass

Funny how nobody has mentioned that Obama stayed in Flordia "prepping" for last Fridays debate while the bailout was being debated. If he's so educated and smart why does he need to prep? Oh, I know, because studying and preparing for an oral examination is what a smart person does!

Barack Obama = Senator
John McCain = Senator

Bailout plan = IN THE FUCKING HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Obama or McCain going into House for no other reason beside political stunt = stupid.

But you raise an interesting question: Where was John McCain on Thursday night? (Oh, and I presume you can back your assertion that Obama was in Florida prepping for the debate with factual evidence).

[Swift]

Originally Posted by HughRuss

Barack Obama = Senator
John McCain = Senator

Bailout plan = IN THE FUCKING HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Obama or McCain going into House for no other reason beside political stunt = stupid.

But you raise an interesting question: Where was John McCain on Thursday night? (Oh, and I presume you can back your assertion that Obama was in Florida prepping for the debate with factual evidence).

Right, but can't a president do more then one thing at a time? Seriouisly. McCain goes to Washington to try to get something done. And Obama is ragging on McCain saying a president should be able to do more then one thing at a time.

Obama preparing; for initial debate; CHARLOTTE [Derived headline] - The Intelligencer | Encyclopedia.com
Obama spends 3 days preparing for a debate that may be postponed « The Sadim Touch

Obama Begins Debate Prep - From The Road

He was in Florida preparing for the debate. Nothing wrong with that. but I think his line about "a president doing 2 things at once" is irrelevant to this situation.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by Swift-Bass

Right, but can't a president do more then one thing at a time? Seriouisly. McCain goes to Washington to try to get something done. And Obama is ragging on McCain saying a president should be able to do more then one thing at a time.

Obama preparing; for initial debate; CHARLOTTE [Derived headline] - The Intelligencer | Encyclopedia.com
Obama spends 3 days preparing for a debate that may be postponed « The Sadim Touch

Obama Begins Debate Prep - From The Road

He was in Florida preparing for the debate. Nothing wrong with that. but I think his line about "a president doing 2 things at once" is irrelevant to this situation.

And neither of them are president (and still, the president RARELY even goes to the house, or the senate for that matter. Keep in mind, it is the legislative branch, the president operates in the executive).

If McCain was, too, in Florida, why in the world would you level an attack at Obama for being in the same place, doing the same thing? The "two things at once" claim was made while campaigning (last week when John McCain melodramatically suspended his campaign for 12 hours to rush back to a Katie Couric Interview Washington); thus, it has no relevance here. While Obama was keeping in touch with Paulson (wrong guy to talk to, imho), democratic leaders, and Barney Frank about the bailout bill, read the 3-page package deal, and was still able to campaign; John McCain had to say "STOP EVERYTHING! I need to go save Washington on my shoulders, and my shoulders alone." (Oh, and he also wanted to postpone the debate to "save Washington.")

Oh yes, and the difference between the Obama studying the night before and Sarah Palin in Arizona until Thursday studying the entire time is the fact that Obama took a night to study. Not 4 days (which, again, summons the multitasking attack).

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Swift-Bass

Funny how nobody has mentioned that Obama stayed in Flordia "prepping" for last Fridays debate while the bailout was being debated. If he's so educated and smart why does he need to prep? Oh, I know, because studying and preparing for an oral examination is what a smart person does!

But he clearly is able to articulate a thoughtful position on any issue

Of course they prep for strategy on specific issues, what to expect from McCain, etc.. to not would be irresponsible.

The difference is that Palin is trying replace years worth of studying and learning about national issues in order to take a thoughtful, informed stance with several days of rehearsing talking points on key issues

There's no way she is going to really be able to talk at length on any of the stuff that she wasn't already familiar with (such as energy, perhaps), but it's probably possible she can memorize enough of the talking points and learn the base amount to come off sounding better than she has in any of the real interviews she's had thus far.

[Swift]

Originally Posted by HughRuss

And neither of them are president (and still, the president RARELY even goes to the house, or the senate for that matter. Keep in mind, it is the legislative branch, the president operates in the executive).

If McCain was, too, in Florida, why in the world would you level an attack at Obama for being in the same place, doing the same thing? The "two things at once" claim was made while campaigning (last week when John McCain melodramatically suspended his campaign for 12 hours to rush back to a Katie Couric Interview Washington); thus, it has no relevance here. While Obama was keeping in touch with Paulson (wrong guy to talk to, imho), democratic leaders, and Barney Frank about the bailout bill, read the 3-page package deal, and was still able to campaign; John McCain had to say "STOP EVERYTHING! I need to go save Washington on my shoulders, and my shoulders alone." (Oh, and he also wanted to postpone the debate to "save Washington.")

Oh yes, and the difference between the Obama studying the night before and Sarah Palin in Arizona until Thursday studying the entire time is the fact that Obama took a night to study. Not 4 days (which, again, summons the multitasking attack).

So i'm not wrong and you feel differently about it then me. That's fine. I tink it's radically stupid that the government is trying to sell the line about fixing something that they destroyed.

Obama has been campaigning for the presdiency for at least 18 months. How long as Palin been in the presidential running? Sheesh. I know she's supposed to be up to task and all but can we give her half a chance to get her act together or just crucify her at her every move?

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by Swift-Bass

So i'm not wrong and you feel differently about it then me. That's fine. I tink it's radically stupid that the government is trying to sell the line about fixing something that they destroyed.

Obama has been campaigning for the presdiency for at least 18 months. How long as Palin been in the presidential running? Sheesh. I know she's supposed to be up to task and all but can we give her half a chance to get her act together or just crucify her at her every move?

She's a governor
She "has executive experience"
She's a citizen of the United States of America
She ought to have a rational brain.

Why should we cut somebody who's been working in the government for 12 years a break? Because she didn't study it in college?
Ignorantia juris non excusat; which means she is a citizen, she should have no excuse for being ignorant.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Swift-Bass

Right, but can't a president do more then one thing at a time? Seriouisly. McCain goes to Washington to try to get something done. And Obama is ragging on McCain saying a president should be able to do more then one thing at a time.

Obama preparing; for initial debate; CHARLOTTE [Derived headline] - The Intelligencer | Encyclopedia.com
Obama spends 3 days preparing for a debate that may be postponed « The Sadim Touch

Obama Begins Debate Prep - From The Road

He was in Florida preparing for the debate. Nothing wrong with that. but I think his line about "a president doing 2 things at once" is irrelevant to this situation.

He was doing as much as McCain was...and he didn't have to be there. Matter of fact, seems he was more successful than McCain was...and he wasn't even there.

[motivez]

Okay, apparently the last two clips are:

1) She couldn't name a major newspaper or magazine she had read
2) She couldn't name any Supreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade.

YouTube - Sarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She...

Transcript of #1 for those without sound:

COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this — to stay informed and to understand the world?

PALIN: I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media —

COURIC: But what ones specifically? I’m curious.

PALIN: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.

COURIC: Can you name any of them?

PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news.

Awaiting the release of the other.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by motivez

Okay, apparently the last two clips are:

1) She couldn't name a major newspaper or magazine she had read
2) She couldn't name any Supreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade.



YouTube - Sarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She Reads

Transcript of #1 for those without sound:



Awaiting the release of the other.

I'll be honest, I don't think she was avoiding naming a paper because she's daft (honestly, how can't you know the Times, The Sun, The Post, The Herald?). I think she just didn't want anybody to call her on any possible lie. It gets us to the same point, but that's the rationale that made sense to me.

[motivez]

I remember when people said Katie Couric wasn't qualified to be where she is now because she was just the host of a morning show and hadn't really ever shown any interest in actual news coverage

Whether or not there was any validity to that, since news anchors typically read scripts and ask pre-prepared questions, I think those questions look pretty silly when you look at the massive clusterfuck that has been Palin's candidacy

I mean, she couldn't name a single newspaper or magazine that she "read"? She could have bullshitted her way through it and said The Economist, NY Times, Washington Post.. etc.. but as I pointed out in one of the earliest threads, there's no indication that she ever even thought about any national issues

She couldn't name one Supreme Court decision besides Roe v. Wade?

She's so pro-gun, but couldn't name DC v. Heller? A major case from this year?

Brown v. Board of Education?
Bush v. Gore?
Planned Parenthood v. Casey?
Dred Scott v. Sanford?
Marbury v. Madison?

..I mean, there's at least a dozen that any decently educated person should know the jist of.

I guess that degree in Journalism () from the University of Potatoville isn't come in all that handy.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by HughRuss

I'll be honest, I don't think she was avoiding naming a paper because she's daft (honestly, how can't you know the Times, The Sun, The Post, The Herald?). I think she just didn't want anybody to call her on any possible lie. It gets us to the same point, but that's the rationale that made sense to me.

I think that's almost worse because it combines the sad attempt with political calculation with near complete ignorance on national issues

[DosEquis]

How about when Larry Flynt made an appearance in the supreme court? That one was probably my favorite. If she knew that one then we know shes a freak in the sheets, or at least really in to Hustler.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by motivez

I remember when people said Katie Couric wasn't qualified to be where she is now because she was just the host of a morning show and hadn't really ever shown any interest in actual news coverage

Whether or not there was any validity to that, since news anchors typically read scripts and ask pre-prepared questions, I think those questions look pretty silly when you look at the massive clusterfuck that has been Palin's candidacy

I mean, she couldn't name a single newspaper or magazine that she "read"? She could have bullshitted her way through it and said The Economist, NY Times, Washington Post.. etc.. but as I pointed out in one of the earliest threads, there's no indication that she ever even thought about any national issues

She couldn't name one Supreme Court decision besides Roe v. Wade?

She's so pro-gun, but couldn't name DC v. Heller? A major case from this year?

Brown v. Board of Education?
Bush v. Gore?
Planned Parenthood v. Casey?
Dred Scott v. Sanford?
Marbury v. Madison?

You watched Keith Olbermann too, huh?

Originally Posted by motivez

..I mean, there's at least a dozen that any decently educated person should know the jist of.

I guess that degree in Journalism () from the University of Potatoville isn't come in all that handy.

*gist
I can't understand how it took her 6 years to obtain that degree. Journalism is a ridiculously easy subject (honestly, in my 205 class, all we did is debate on the objectivity of syndicated journalism).

Originally Posted by motivez

I think that's almost worse because it combines the sad attempt with political calculation with near complete ignorance on national issues

Yes, I know.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by HughRuss

You watched Keith Olbermann too, huh?

No, been studying all night, just catching up on the blogs before I go to sleep and wanted to comment on the new video since no one had linked it yet

Originally Posted by HughRuss

I can't understand how it took her 6 years to obtain that degree. Journalism is a ridiculously easy subject (honestly, in my 205 class, all we did is debate on the objectivity of syndicated journalism).

Well, we're not likely to know because they wont release her transcripts / records last I heard.. funny, there's no "outrage" from the right who's been miffed about Michelle Obama's (the wife of a candidate) papers being "kept" from the public.. and by kept, I mean already published and out there.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by motivez

No, been studying all night, just catching up on the blogs before I go to sleep and wanted to comment on the new video since no one had linked it yet



Well, we're not likely to know because they wont release her transcripts / records last I heard.. funny, there's no "outrage" from the right who's been miffed about Michelle Obama's (the wife of a candidate) papers being "kept" from the public.. and by kept, I mean already published and out there.

Funny thing about dissertations, they tend to be published.

[kombayn]

Palin's an idiot and a horrible VP choice? Can we all agree. I bought into the hype of her being a cunning politician and the choice for McCain that can win him this election. But it turned out this chick is an idiot from Alaska and she has a narrow point of view. It's finally back-firing on her. Any experienced politician would be able to name SCOTUS judges without a second of hesitation. At least, I would hope so.

[thatguyoverthere]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

How about when Larry Flynt made an appearance in the supreme court? That one was probably my favorite. If she knew that one then we know shes a freak in the sheets, or at least really in to Hustler.

I wonder how she ever found the time to make babies, since she's up all night reading every magazine and newspaper in the country!

All kidding aside, I really hate that answer Palin gave. She couldn't even bullshit her way out of it. Who's going to call her on lying for saying Time or Newsweek? She could have even given a shout out to a local paper at the end. Instead, she looked Katie in the eye and lied right to her. "Most of 'em." "All of 'em." Just a total lie.

It's like back in school with a bully. They're just going to lie right to you right in your face and not blink, just to piss you off, totally denying reality. I kinda wish Katie had just lost her shit and started screaming at Palin. Either name some or admit you don't read any on a regular basis! Don't just stand there and lie!

What is worse? Not reading magazines or newspapers on a regular basis even though you're a freaking Governor and admitting it to it when asked, or not reading newspapers and magazines regularly, and making up a ridiculous lie when asked about it.

If she'll lie about that, what else will she lie about?

I seriously hope she gets creamed on Thursday night.

[thatguyoverthere]

Originally Posted by HughRuss

You watched Keith Olbermann too, huh?


*gist
I can't understand how it took her 6 years to obtain that degree. Journalism is a ridiculously easy subject (honestly, in my 205 class, all we did is debate on the objectivity of syndicated journalism).



Yes, I know.

Andrew Sullivan recently said that she got a degree in sports journalism, yet there's no evidence that she ever wrote anything for any school newspaper.

That says a LOT if it's true.