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Old 09-26-2006, 11:20 PM   #1
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The question of whether Islam is more dangerous than Xianity is stupid

because it's such a vague question, and depending on what the question really wants to know, it could have two different answers.

Here's an analogy: What's more dangerous? Cancer or the flu?

Well, it depends on what you mean...do you measure danger by which, at this very moment, is doing more killing? If so, then the answer is cancer. Or do you measure danger by potential to kill? If so, then the answer might be the flu, because under the right circumstances, it could kill more people in a period of time than cancer. Or do we look into history and see which has killed more people? Maybe the flu has killed more than cancer over human history. You get the point...

And that's the problem with the Islam vs. Xianity question...you ask the question generally like that, no one knows exactly what you mean, or what the appropriate measure is, and so people have different answers, all of which could be right. The truth is, there is no right answer, which is why guys like Sean Hannity are douches for trying to crucify Rosie O'Donnel for saying extreme xianity = extreme islam. She's could very well be right, depending on what type of danger she had in mind.

But this is what I hate about political dialogue...nuances like this don't fit well on a sound byte, so people take advantage of it.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:46 AM   #2
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It's obvious the present day circumstance is more relevant. Therefore, cancer is more of a threat than the flu. The past has no effect on us when it comes to disease threats. Everything is too different.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:52 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
It's obvious the present day circumstance is more relevant.
orly? take avian flu for example...could kill 10's, maybe 100's of millions world wide in certain scenarios...this is something that's irrelevant because it's only potential?
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:07 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
orly? take avian flu for example...could kill 10's, maybe 100's of millions world wide in certain scenarios...this is something that's irrelevant because it's only potential?
Yup. Anything has 'potential'. But we're not dealing with potentials, we're dealing with realities.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:11 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Yup. Anything has 'potential'. But we're not dealing with potentials, we're dealing with realities.
Well then let the President know he's wasting all of his time with Iran because all of the danger there is potential.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:20 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
Well then let the President know he's wasting all of his time with Iran because all of the danger there is potential.
The deaths suggest otherwise.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:40 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
The deaths suggest otherwise.
I'm referring to the nuclear bomb he's trying to desparately to stop from being made, the one that could potentially exist in the future.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:45 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
I'm referring to the nuclear bomb he's trying to desparately to stop from being made, the one that could potentially exist in the future.
Well one thing's for sure; they won't be making one anytime soon, so he can rest assured that he was successful in keeping them from doing that in the near future
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:48 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Well one thing's for sure; they won't be making one anytime soon, so he can rest assured that he was successful in keeping them from doing that in the near future
you realize i'm right.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:51 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
you realize i'm right.
About what? That there were no nuclear bombs in Iraq? Yeah, you're right about that.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:26 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
About what? That there were no nuclear bombs in Iraq? Yeah, you're right about that.
No, I think you read Iran as "Iraq." You said danger is not measured by future potential, but by what's happening now. Well if that's the case, Iran's potential future acquisition of a nuclear weapon is not a danger, because it's purely a potential risk.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:44 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
No, I think you read Iran as "Iraq." You said danger is not measured by future potential, but by what's happening now. Well if that's the case, Iran's potential future acquisition of a nuclear weapon is not a danger, because it's purely a potential risk.
Yeah, I read it as Iraq.

Iran has already shown itself to be a threatening entity; by proxy in support of Hezbollah, Hamas, insurgents in Iraq, etc. That is a reality.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:52 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Yeah, I read it as Iraq.

Iran has already shown itself to be a threatening entity; by proxy in support of Hezbollah, Hamas, insurgents in Iraq, etc. That is a reality.
Right, but the nuclear issue itself is purely a potential threat. We wouldn't even be hearing about Iran now if it weren't for people thinking they want a nuke.

So when people speak of needing to take action to stop Iran from acquiring a nuke, you can tell them there is no danger, because the nuke threat is purely potential.
 
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
So when people speak of needing to take action to stop Iran from acquiring a nuke, you can tell them there is no danger, because the nuke threat is purely potential.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:35 PM   #15
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It's obvious you favor Islam over Christianity by the simple fact that you spell out Islam but not "Xianity."
 
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
It's obvious you favor Islam over Christianity by the simple fact that you spell out Islam but not "Xianity."

I remember when there was a campaign against XMAS because it was sacreligious to some Christians.

Maybe since his thread is going to have that word alot, he's just shorthanding it.

Wouldn't that be interesting if in 500 years, we spelt Christianity like that? And Christmas too? It would be like, the culture war Bill O Reilly speaks of.

But, what difference does it really make when it essentially means the same word? Because there is an X? And an X can be an indicator of crossing something out? I could see you draw that parallel.

Sorry, just reminded me of linguistics...continue....
 
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Originally Posted by IminWonderland View Post
I remember when there was a campaign against XMAS because it was sacreligious to some Christians.

Maybe since his thread is going to have that word alot, he's just shorthanding it.

Wouldn't that be interesting if in 500 years, we spelt Christianity like that? And Christmas too? It would be like, the culture war Bill O Reilly speaks of.

But, what difference does it really make when it essentially means the same word? Because there is an X? And an X can be an indicator of crossing something out? I could see you draw that parallel.

Sorry, just reminded me of linguistics...continue....
X is actually Greek for Christ. So Xianity is actually somewhat 'proper.' But only if you're a Greek Christian. Since when most people in America use it, they're using it to "cross out" Christ.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 06:10 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
It's obvious you favor Islam over Christianity by the simple fact that you spell out Islam but not "Xianity."
The only thing that's obvious is the word "Islam" is already short and doesn't need an abbreviation. If "Christianity" was only 5 letters long, I won't be shortening it either. That you would ignore such a simple, obvious explanation for a speculative, sinister ulterior motive speaks to either your paranoia or hypersensitivity.

p.s., I don't favor Islam over Xianity. I think they're both equally retarded. I would say Xianity and Xlam, except that would cater to the pussyhurtedness of hypersensitive Christians, which I'm against. And btw, if you'll go through my posts, you'll notice I alternate between xianity and christianity, depending on my degree of laziness.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:54 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
The only thing that's obvious is the word "Islam" is already short and doesn't need an abbreviation. If "Christianity" was only 5 letters long, I won't be shortening it either. That you would ignore such a simple, obvious explanation for a speculative, sinister ulterior motive speaks to either your paranoia or hypersensitivity.

p.s., I don't favor Islam over Xianity. I think they're both equally retarded. I would say Xianity and Xlam, except that would cater to the pussyhurtedness of hypersensitive Christians, which I'm against. And btw, if you'll go through my posts, you'll notice I alternate between xianity and christianity, depending on my degree of laziness.

You seem to type out other long words.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:44 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
You seem to type out other long words.
Jesus Christ, this is like explaining something to my 5 year old niece...

If you can show me an abbreviation for "hypersensitivity" that people readily understand with the same ease as "xian," I will gladly use it.

...and you give the muslims a hard time for being easily offended.
 
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