California: Vote YES on Prop 5!

[AmericanDrugWar]

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Proposition 5 will cut state costs. The nonpartisan Legislative Analyst estimates those savings at $2.5 billion or more. Prop. 5 safely eases prison overcrowding by investing in drug treatment - which costs much less than prison - for youth and nonviolent offenders. Prop. 5 provides treatment with strict accountability.

Prop. 5 is supported by the League of Women Voters of California, Consumer Federation of California, California Nurses Association, California Society of Addiction Medicine, California Federation of Teachers - and many others.

Prop. 5 is opposed by the state prison guards' union, which has contributed almost $2 million for deceptive TV ads. Prison guards benefit from prison overcrowding and new prison building, but California loses. - Yes on Proposition 5: The Nonviolent Offender Rehabilitation Act

Kevin Booth, creator of American Drug War: The Last White Hope, will be appearing on the nationally syndicate Alex Jones Radio Show on Friday, October 31, at 11amP/2pmE to discuss Prop 5 and its implications.

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[Photon1001]

^yes, in the short term I'm sure it will.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

I voted NO on prop 5. It'll increase spending. Fuck that. Learn to do it without adding cost and I'll vote YES.

How will it end up costing you more?

[HughRuss]

Vote yes on prop 8

[Photon1001]

^IDK, nobody has a crystal ball, but I can tell you that all that stuff about the state closing prisons, laying off and cutting pay for guards, etc. that's actually happening in Michigan, where a similar program has been put in place to cut down on state costs through treatment programs and lighter sentences for drug offenders a few years ago.

In the first few years though, it was quite expensive.

[Photon1001]

^you guys have a lot of money too, around here, we've even been leasing out some of our recently emptied prison space to house some of your prisoners, a measure I strongly support, btw.

[Heres Johnny]

So what will happen is the state hospitals will be overcrowded which are already understaffed and causeing forced 16 hour shifts all the time. It's just a shell game.

[Photon1001]

^That hasn't happened here.

[kombayn]

Originally Posted by HughRuss

Vote yes on prop 8

I hope you're being sarcastic.

I voted Yes on Prop 5 and Yes on expanding the Metro Rail propositions. Voted no on everything else.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by kombayn

I hope you're being sarcastic.

I voted Yes on Prop 5 and Yes on expanding the Metro Rail propositions. Voted no on everything else.

I was.

[kombayn]

^Thought so. I will feel terrible for the couples if Prop 8 passes.

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by kombayn

I hope you're being sarcastic.

I voted Yes on Prop 5 and Yes on expanding the Metro Rail propositions. Voted no on everything else.

Did your other Yes vote (the metro one) include that stupid high-speed bullet train from SF to LA?

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by kombayn

^Thought so. I will feel terrible for the couples if Prop 8 passes.

One of my housemates works for the LGBT advocacy group here in Washington, the Human Rights Campaign. From everything I've heard from him (they're hugely involved in the Prop 8 fight, obviously), it looks like the measure will fail by about a 55-45 margin.

I take that with a grain of salt, though, because it wouldn't surprise me if they're trying to stay optimistic even if things aren't going so well.

[kombayn]

It was a Los Angeles County measure to do rail extensions to LAX. Expand the subway/metrolin/bus services too. Something that Los Angeles should've have been doing back in the 50's to catch-up with cities like NYC, Chicago and Boston. I know if I could take the metro or subway anywhere in LA county I would use it.

[kombayn]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

One of my housemates works for the LGBT advocacy group here in Washington, the Human Rights Campaign. From everything I've heard from him (they're hugely involved in the Prop 8 fight, obviously), it looks like the measure will fail by about a 55-45 margin.

I take that with a grain of salt, though, because it wouldn't surprise me if they're trying to stay optimistic even if things aren't going so well.

I hope so. I live in South Bay, the Manhattan Beach and North Redondo communities are flooded with Yes on 8 signs. But I feel these two areas are majorly GOP because I see a lot of McCain/Palin signs around here.

[HughRuss]

Originally Posted by kombayn

I hope so. I live in South Bay, the Manhattan Beach and North Redondo communities are flooded with Yes on 8 signs. But I feel these two areas are majorly GOP because I see a lot of McCain/Palin signs around here.

They must be Californian democratic expatriates.

[Fed Up]

Originally Posted by kombayn

I hope so. I live in South Bay, the Manhattan Beach and North Redondo communities are flooded with Yes on 8 signs. But I feel these two areas are majorly GOP because I see a lot of McCain/Palin signs around here.

Hey...I used to live in MB, (40th and Kelp) RB, RPV! Every weekend we played volleyball at 1300 The Strand courts. Our friends lived in that house, the one that always had the July 4th parties when you were about 5, lol. It's been demolished since....but the memories are there!

A buddy of mine opened up this place in MB: Los Angeles Night Club - Upper Manhattan Lounge and Restaurant

I voted yes on 5. I'm also a supporter of LEAP.

Fed Up

[kombayn]

Nice. I'm a resident in North Redondo, and I haven't seen Upper Manhattan but I'll have to check it out next time. My mom and I usually get together and have lunch a couple times a week at Wahoo's, the Kettle or Hennessey's. I love South Bay wouldn't live anywhere else in Los Angeles County.