Mass-Detentions Legalized by Congress; American Citizens Declared "Enemy Combatants" - Page 3
Originally Posted by hsmith and what is that, the mythical "war" on terror? its not a myth...
Originally Posted by hsmith and what is that, the mythical "war" on terror? its not a myth...
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10-03-2006, 05:33 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only 
| Originally Posted by hsmith its not a myth 
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10-03-2006, 05:36 PM
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| Junkie libertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Which act of congress declared war on whom in this war on terror?
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10-03-2006, 05:43 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by hsmith why were we in vietnam/korea for so long
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10-03-2006, 05:51 PM
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| Junkie libertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor That isn't the question.
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10-03-2006, 06:33 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by hsmith http://www.c-span.org/resources/pdf/...thorization%22
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10-03-2006, 09:57 PM
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| Baka  Idealist Adelaide, Australia
| I laugh at the idea of a war on an emotion. You can't even really have a war against terrorists - only against another state. It should be more like "police actions" and "military operations". Bush just wants it to be a war so he can invoke "it times of war balh blah give me more power" True story | ||||
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10-03-2006, 10:44 PM
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| I DIDNT KNOW THAT  Corpus Christi, Texas
| 320 billion would have bought some really cool spy stuff. And we might have come a little closer to actually fighting this WOT. As far as that whole Bush blah blah power thing..... I cant argue that one.. | ||||
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10-03-2006, 11:05 PM
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| Last Starfighter  Independent Northern California
| While i agree thaqt this bill is a travesty, it's not right to blame one party for it. The democrats obviously support it as well since it takes a majority vote to pass such bills. | ||||
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10-03-2006, 11:10 PM
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| I DIDNT KNOW THAT Corpus Christi, Texas
| Originally Posted by Diamond Cross Which now has me totally convinced that the dems that voted for this thing are spinless and I am truly digusted with them. They were afraid of the spin the Republicans would put on their vote and they didnt have the courage or the foresight to plan damage control.
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10-03-2006, 11:10 PM
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| Last Starfighter Independent Northern California
| Also if the Democrats were truly interested in stopping this god-awful bill, they could've done a few things, such as a fillibuster. | ||||
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10-03-2006, 11:16 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Diamond Cross of course they do, it is in the best interests of the country
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10-03-2006, 11:16 PM
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| I DIDNT KNOW THAT Corpus Christi, Texas
| Or voted no, called a press conference, take a stand on the steps of the Capitol and expose the bill and why they voted against it. Did a single Democrat need to vote for it for the bill to pass? There focus was on November and not on the citizens of this country. | ||||
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10-03-2006, 11:22 PM
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| Baka Idealist Adelaide, Australia
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor It's in the best interest of the government gaining more power with less oversight.
Nothing in the bill has any proven value to the US as a nation. Terrorists are not a "special" type of criminal. | ||||
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10-04-2006, 12:03 AM
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| Last Starfighter Independent Northern California
| We already have laws against terrrorism and don't need any more. Those are the laws that should be used, not make war on American citizens. | ||||
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10-04-2006, 12:35 AM
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| Pinko Commie Bastard  Communist Moscow
| this passed both Houses? when will it be signed? | ||||
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10-04-2006, 12:37 AM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Democrats as a whole don't support this bill. They just fucked up by agreeing to Cloture (Thanks Harry Reid  ), and a few of them in tight races with Republicans voted for itThose decisions have caused me to not donate any cash to campaigns, and I know it's generated outrage on a lot of blogs who were really beginning to be excited about being involved in this election cycle. This bill isn't good for the nation. It kills what this nation was supposed to be about before its passage. Those who support this bill hate the principles that America was founded on. Those who pushed for it simply want more unchecked power in the hands of an incompetent President and his blundering Administration. | ||||
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10-04-2006, 12:38 AM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| Originally Posted by thomez It passed the Senate the other night around 6pm.. not sure when it'll be signed, might already have been.
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10-04-2006, 12:45 AM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Kytro it has yet to be implemented so how can it prove value yet
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10-04-2006, 01:20 AM
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| Baka Idealist Adelaide, Australia
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor The problem I really have is outstanding need. There is no real evidence to indicate these powers are needed. It's primarily a power grab "father knows best" style.
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10-04-2006, 02:20 AM
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| Last Starfighter Independent Northern California
| And none of them probably read it. So this is how liberty ends... with thunderous applause. | ||||
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