Republican Congressman resigns today after sending sexual messages to 16 y/o boy

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Do you have an open enough mind to think this may have been a planned set up so he would lose his seat?

No I don't, call me an idiot, I give you a free pass

[Scrum]

Fordham just dropped a bombshell.

He had a meeting with the speaker and house leaders 2 years ago about Foley.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

No I don't, call me an idiot, I give you a free pass

I won't call you an idiot. I know you want this to be as bad as possible. I just want to remind you, it's happened before

CBS Ousts 4 For Bush Guard Story - CBS News

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Fordham just dropped a bombshell.

He had a meeting with the speaker and house leaders 2 years ago about Foley.

Just read that. Didn't give many details though.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Just read that. Didn't give many details though.

Yeah, all I heard was that he felt Reynolds and Hastert were trying to pass the buck to him and he wanted to refute that.


Looks like they are investigating some campaign money between Reynolds and Foley. I didn't catch what that was about.

[Scrum]

Hastert is looking bad here.

As if he needed any help. The guy had some crooked deals here.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I won't call you an idiot. I know you want this to be as bad as possible. I just want to remind you, it's happened before

CBS Ousts 4 For Bush Guard Story - CBS News

I never thought that was even an interesting story...i never thought the voters cared...when it came out i was like "meh" when it went south i was like "sucks rathers great legacy was tarnished"

It's already tremendously bad, how worse can it get? they are pointing fingers at each other, resigning, you have conservatives on TV today saying Hastert is out by the end of the week

Oh yeah, BTW your big story from the ridiculous blog was just a play for hits...all they showed was that through really way too much spare time they were able to get a pretty good guess who the kid was now that he's grown up, and if he is that kid, he probably just turned 18 when Foley gave him the messages

and ofcourse that has nothing to do with the other pages, only one of them

talk about a pathetic counter punch...drudge won't even pick it up now that its leaked

Update, its even worse, some of the messages were sent when he was 17, very sexual ones, and others were sent when he was 18....17 is still wrong under federal law...and ofcourse...i THOUGHT, republican morality...but these sites are claiming its ok because he was 18 during some of the messages...

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Style's Conservative Blog Story

Hi guys and girls how is it going in here? If the FBI comes then they come, Ms. Underestimated and I found everything on the internet. I believe ABC NEWS has tried to create confusion about Jordan's age so they can create a false perception that all the children were minors. I believe Foley is a scumbag. I put this story out so people will research it further and I would like to know who turned the IMs over to ABC NEWS and why ABC NEWS will not publish the date the IMs were made and with whom. If the person is a minor then he should be offered protection, but I thought here in America that you had the right to face your accuser.

[Thorgrim]

It gets better, the kid who might have been 18 during SOME of the IMs...his current job is WORKING FOR THE REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE IN OKLAHOMA

so they are saying this was all a setup...by a Rebublican working for a Republican! priceless!

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

His chief of staff just resigned....and foley is blaiming booze for his conversation... i believe the quote on the news was...

"Foley is not a pedophile...he deeply regrets the conversations he had while under the influence of alcohol."

I agree with Wanda Sykes who said to stop blaming alchohol! It might make you sleep with a fat ass or piss on your neighbors lawn, but it wont make you a pedophile!

[thatguyoverthere]

Hey, alcohol made Mel Gibson hate Jews, yet somehow it made Foley love boys... hmmm, that's weird.

"Ah, alcohol. The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!" - Homer Simpson

[RMNIXON]

DRUDGE:


ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER

FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET

A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.

The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.

ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."

SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."

ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"

But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Developing...


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OK, the old guy is still a sick monkey, but.......

[6SpeedTA95]

Until someone else picsk this up I'm not buying it.

[SICKGUY]

appearantly foley has a reputation among participants of the page program

national politics
Former Colo. pages recall Foley
By Mike Soraghan
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com

Washington - The conversation started innocently, but it quickly got too personal for Daniel Ciucci.

Last year, Ciucci was a Democratic congressional page from Boulder's Fairview High School who'd wandered into unfamiliar territory, the Republican side of the House chamber. But he was familiar with the reputation of the congressman talking to him, Mark Foley.

"Everybody knew he was a weird dude," said Ciucci, now a freshman at the University of Colorado.

"He kept delving into, 'What's your favorite subject in school? How's your family life?' He seemed overly interested in everything I was talking about. I finally said, 'I have to go tally votes'."

So Ciucci slipped away to the House Cloak Room where he worked.

"I walked in and told the pages, 'Foley talked to me'," Ciucci said. "Everybody laughed because everybody knew."

Ciucci and other former pages from Colorado say it was a common view among them that the Florida Republican was too friendly with the high school students who serve as pages - particularly the males.

They say they were disappointed, but not terribly surprised, to hear of the sexually explicit electronic conversations Foley had with male pages, creating a scandal that has rocked Washington.

Yet both Ciucci and another former Colorado page, Jen Ridder, said they would join the program again because it was one of the most positive experiences of their lives. And they're angry about proposals by some in Congress to abolish the page program.

"I had the time of my life in the House page program," Ciucci said. "I got a bird's-eye perspective of the legislative process."

Rep. Mark Udall, D-Eldorado Springs, who nominated Ciucci for the program, termed Foley's behavior abhorrent and called for an independent investigation.

"Leaders who fail to protect the young people who come to Washington, D.C., to serve them do not deserve to lead the House of Representatives," Udall said.

There are 72 House and 30 Senate pages, generally nominated by members. They must be high school juniors and at least 16 years old. They often serve as messengers in the Capitol and go to school while taking part.

Ciucci and Ridder say they felt the program was extremely safe. Pages were under constant supervision, their whereabouts were monitored through use of keycards, and they could not go out alone.

"If I wanted to go to dinner with my member (of Congress), that was impossible," said Ridder, who attended East High School in Denver and now goes to Middlebury College in Vermont. "I couldn't go to the Starbucks across the street."

She said she had heard that Foley corresponded with former male pages after they left the program.

"I don't think any of us were surprised," she said. "He was a member who hung around the page desk."

Ridder's father, Rick Ridder, a Democratic pollster who himself was a congressional page in the 1960s, said he's angered at how the Foley matter was handled by House leaders, but wants the page program to continue.

"I absolutely would send another child to this program," Ritter said. "You don't close down a good program because the administrators are on the lam."

[SICKGUY]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

we really need one more thread about this

you really didnt need to post in this one

[SICKGUY]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I dont care if he was molested thats not an excuse. This "I was treated like shit so I'm gonna treat others like shit" or "I was molested so thats why I molest others" is just ridiculous. Treat the person, treat the problem. This guy has issues.

finally we agree on something.

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I dont care if he was molested thats not an excuse. This "I was treated like shit so I'm gonna treat others like shit" or "I was molested so thats why I molest others" is just ridiculous. Treat the person, treat the problem. This guy has issues.

As I said. It may be useful for treatment, but it does negate any particular crime.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by Kytro

As I said. It may be useful for treatment, but it does negate any particular crime.

what?

[Scrum]

Which one of the pages was this? There were multiple over the years he had contact with.