Republican Congressman resigns today after sending sexual messages to 16 y/o boy

[KatKanPlay]

Originally Posted by willis

even if it's true, i'm not sure where the "but..." comes in.

the last line says the kid was 17 at teh start and 18 at the end.. i'm not sure how that makes it any better

It means he wont go to prison, he didnt break any laws, in this case. The good thing that came out of it is another scumbag was exposed.

[Kytro]

That fact he was abused can possibly be used to help in treatment (similar cases exist) but does not change what he did or negate the effect.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

I agree with Wanda Sykes who said to stop blaming alchohol! It might make you sleep with a fat ass or piss on your neighbors lawn, but it wont make you a pedophile!

[Scrum]

If he was of legal age the whole time, why did Hastert contact his parents and thinnk the whole thing was resolved afterwards?

I have the feeling this comes from the stuff earlier today where the guy thinks he traced the kids myspace off his AIM screen name.

[kinggovernor]

yet another thread about this

can we please get a thread merger

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by willis

even if it's true, i'm not sure where the "but..." comes in.

the last line says the kid was 17 at teh start and 18 at the end.. i'm not sure how that makes it any better

Not for Foley other than perhaps he broke no law while being a sick old man?

But what about ABC?

Am honest mistake? Or did they know and thought the identity would be kept quiet until after the election?

[willis]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Not for Foley other than perhaps he broke no law while being a sick old man?

But what about ABC?

Am honest mistake? Or did they know and thought the identity would be kept quiet until after the election?

I think i'm lost..

the drudge story itself even says the kid was 17 at the start and 18 at the end.

So foley still was engaging in sexors with a minor, regardless of how old the kid was when it stopped.

And what about abc?.. an honest mistake in posting the screen-name??.. what does that help or hurt in terms of the story of foley actions??

[KatKanPlay]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Not for Foley other than perhaps he broke no law while being a sick old man?

But what about ABC?

Am honest mistake? Or did they know and thought the identity would be kept quiet until after the election?

We have to see what ABC's response is to this. Then what the truth is. If they led us all on a pedophile chase and we find out it wasnt after all, I would say they are gonna have a bitch of a time with their ratings.

He is still a dirty scumbag peice of shit in my opinion.

[Thorgrim]

I don't think you guys get it...all some person found was that MAYBE one of his victims was a minor for awhile, 17, and then 18 for a few weeks

1) Most importantly, there are OTHER VICTIMS
2) starting something with a 17 year old is still "inappropiate conduct with a minor"

i specifically addressed this, the "suspected" former page is an active republican working for a republican in Oklahoma...he is no partisan with an ax to grind or some other fantasy you guys could think up where this whole foley thing was a plot by the media

[ballz2wallz]

Oooooh, so it seems it was with an 18 yr old....

ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER

FAMOUS IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET

A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.

The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.

ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."

SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."

ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"

But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.

A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.

Developing...

[IminWonderland]

If he didn't do anything wrong, why would he resign?

And like posted before, it wasn't just with one person. It was with several.

[Pro Street]

it's so hard to get non-biased accurate information anymore.

however, him resigning shows that SOMETHING wrong was done, if there was nothing wrong, and he just flirted with the page over 18, I don't see how it would warrant a resignation.

[Thorgrim]

I like how I post how it involved several pages, and the boy in question was 17 and TURNED 18 during some of the IMs, but there were sexually explicit ones when he was 17

That's up there for...oh I don't know how many hours, and then someone makes a post about how the page was 18

I used to wonder why about half of america still thinks we found WMD we were looking for in Iraq and Saddam was involved in 9/11, and then I read threads like this and I remember the reading abilities of some americans

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I like how I post how it involved several pages, and the boy in question was 17 and TURNED 18 during some of the IMs, but there were sexually explicit ones when he was 17

That's up there for...oh I don't know how many hours, and then someone makes a post about how the page was 18

I used to wonder why about half of america still thinks we found WMD we were looking for in Iraq and Saddam was involved in 9/11, and then I read threads like this and I remember the reading abilities of some americans

It's because Drudge posted it.

Nothing is true until Drudge puts it on his site.

[Scrum]

Oh my...

The Blotter

Three More Former Pages Accuse Foley of Online Sexual Approaches


Three more former congressional pages have come forward to reveal what they call "sexual approaches" over the Internet from former Congressman Mark Foley.

The pages served in the classes of 1998, 2000 and 2002. They independently approached ABC News after the Foley resignation through the Brian Ross & the Investigative Team's tip line on ABCNews.com. None wanted their names used because of the sensitive nature of the communications.

"I was seventeen years old and just returned to [my home state] when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were," said the page in the 2002 class.

The former page also said Foley told him that if he happened to be in Washington, D.C., he could stay at Foley's home if he "would engage in oral sex" with Foley.

The page told ABC News he was interviewed this week by FBI agents who had a six-page list of questions about Foley and the exchanges.

The second page who talked with ABC News, a graduate of the 2000 page class, says Foley actually visited the old page dorm and offered rides to events in his BMW.

"His e-mails developed into sexually explicit conversations, and he asked me for photographs of my erect penis," the former page said.

The page said Foley maintained e-mail contact with him even after he started college and arranged a sexual liaison after the page had turned 18.

The third page interviewed by ABC News, a graduate of the 1998 page class, said Foley's instant messages began while he was a senior in high school.

"Foley would say he was sitting in his boxers and ask what I was wearing," the page said.

"It became more weird, and I stopped responding," the page said.

All three pages described similar instant message and e-mail patterns, with remarkably similar escalations of provocative questions.

"He didn't want to talk about politics," the page said. "He wanted to talk about sex or my penis," the page said.

The three new verbal accounts are in addition to two sets of sexually explicit instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages.

An online story on the Drudge Report Thursday claimed one set of the sexually explicit instant messages obtained by ABC News was part of a "prank" on the part of the former page, who reportedly says he goaded the congressman into writing the messages.

"This was no prank," said one of the three former pages who talked to ABC News today about his experience with the congressman.

[Thorgrim]

notice how Drudge has made his big HEADLINE story into a small right hand column halfway down the list of foley articles

big top article is "Ashcroft blasts 9/11 commission" then his logo...nothing in red

for people who don't know Drudge's style the past several years, this is what happens when the story becomes uninteresting and full of holes, and eventually gets yanked by him from his own site

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

notice how Drudge has made his big HEADLINE story into a small right hand column halfway down the list of foley articles

big top article is "Ashcroft blasts 9/11 commission" then his logo...nothing in red

for people who don't know Drudge's style the past several years, this is what happens when the story becomes uninteresting and full of holes, and eventually gets yanked by him from his own site

Are you suggesting that that giant headline he had up all day was less than truthful?

Unpossible!

[thatguyoverthere]

The damage might already be done.

Republican internal poll suggests that if Hastert stays "the difference could be between a 20-seat loss and a 50-seat loss."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218043,00.html

The question now might be "will it get any worse?"

So the Republican blogs are airing this kids name? That's great. That's fair. How long until he starts getting death threats? And do they say he's a Republican too? And about 50% of likely voters say the scandal might influence their vote? Wow.

The head spins...

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

notice how Drudge has made his big HEADLINE story into a small right hand column halfway down the list of foley articles

big top article is "Ashcroft blasts 9/11 commission" then his logo...nothing in red

For people who don't know Drudge's style since he's started, this is what he does with every headline story

for people who don't know Drudge's style the past several years, this is what happens when the story becomes uninteresting and full of holes, and eventually gets yanked by him from his own site

It hasn't been yanked from the main page, much less from his site. If you notice the 'search Drudge' function, you can find anything and everything he's ever posted on his site. That means, it's not yanked, deleted, or anything of the sort.

For those of you who don't know Drudge, you'll notice he has a limited amount of space on his site, and it changes periodically throughout the day. Seems logical, right?