On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee concluded that Rep. Dan Crane (R-Ill.) and Rep. Gerry Studds (D-Mass.) had engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages. In Crane's case, it was a 1980 relationship with a female page and in Studds's case, it was a 1973 ...
10-02-2006, 02:28 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC 
| It seems sex with Pages has happened before.
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10-02-2006, 02:45 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Because they're both scumbags, I'd imagine. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:30 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
|  If those guys were Republicans, you never would have posted this. Nice attempt to defend this though. Just keep throwing the kitchen sink and maybe something will stick. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:34 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Re-read it again, genius. First line. 
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10-02-2006, 03:36 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod They are both Republicans?
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10-02-2006, 03:38 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent One was, one wasn't. Therefore, one of those "guys" was a republican. And **GASP** I posted it!!!!!
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10-02-2006, 03:41 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod "Republicans"
But we are off subject. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:42 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| 23 years ago... Did you know in the 1960s there was a think with Kennedy, drunken driving, and a girl who died? I'm sorry, I am sure there is some sort of point to going back decades ago to talk about a current scandal, but I'm not seeing it here | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:45 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim It's happened before, but worse. These two guys tried to stick it out and fight it. Studds (
 ) didn't even think he did anything wrong!At least Foley admitted he was wrong and resigned. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:51 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Foley being a predator of multipe 16 y/o maybe younger boys while writing online predator laws
Studds and the person in question appeared together and announced they had gotten into a relationship and were happy together...the page never filed charges which he could have at ANY TIME for years afterwards if he had felt he had been "taken advantage" of...thats why he never quit...thats why charges were never filed and he kept getting re-elected | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:54 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim It was still a powerful man taking advantage of a subordinate. Like Clinton and Lewinski and now like Foley.
It's wrong every way you look at it. Like an officer having sex with an enlisted person. It just shouldn't be done. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 03:58 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Stylerod That's an argument of morality
I think Foley was wrong because of the hypocritical nature, at this point I do NOT think he deserves 20 years in a federal prison, but we'll see where this goes As far as this goes: I think these are completely unrelated There wasn't a charge the Democrats protected Democrats over the Page scandal DECADES AGO, and today there is, that's the big story now And please don't quote me Hastert's office again, they are just as reliable as any member of Congress's office (like Ney's saying he was innocent before he pleaded guilty) Let's see where police and media investigators take this | ||||
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10-02-2006, 04:07 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| No, but there might be a charge that Democrats (or Democratic groups) were holding information that could have seen him leave office years ago, but they held it until just before the election for maximum effect. If that happened, that is wrong as well. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 04:15 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Yes we are. Please stop the personal attacks.
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10-02-2006, 04:18 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat South Jersey
| You mean moraly corrput self serving politicians would take advantage of a young person for thier own sexual gratification? Why am I not shocked. You will not find a more wretched and corrupt place in the entire country than capitol hill. I am sure it has happened many many more times than just 3. I am sure it has happened hundreds of times. These 3 fools got caught. | ||||
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10-02-2006, 05:55 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
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10-02-2006, 06:07 PM
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| Junkie  Conservative Party
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz ok that is just | ||||
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10-02-2006, 06:51 PM
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| Ron Paul '08  Republican Queens, NY
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 It's been going on for a very long time.
 History shows it happens a lot in the Catholic Church as well as within the ranks of Military  | ||||
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10-02-2006, 07:20 PM
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| Better Dead than Red  Democrat "My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.”
| Originally Posted by Stylerod what a stand up guy
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10-02-2006, 08:49 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| heterosexual republicans > homosexual democrats | ||||
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