Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent So you don't buy that the whole thing was a hoax? Because that's an excuse. I don't know. We'll have to see. This is the reason people don't go to court without a lawyer the day after a crime. See, evidence needs to be collected. People ...
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10-05-2006, 05:27 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC 
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent I don't know. We'll have to see. This is the reason people don't go to court without a lawyer the day after a crime. See, evidence needs to be collected. People need to be interviewed. All bases need to be covered. I know you hate it (when it's a republican), but that's the way it should work. 
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10-05-2006, 05:29 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Diamond Cross I launched a campaign. Look for my billboards.
 And i'll let you in on a little secret. "innocent until proven guilty" is a legal term. That means nothing on public opinion. It's nice if people do it, but come on now. You saw the transcripts. He resigned over it and the republican leadership has been trampeling over each other and saying "not it" for a week. Now it magically all a fake? It's indefensable yet here you guys are defending him with talks of "the kid is really 18", that turned out to be false, "this is all a hoax" which is totally unlikely given the response. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 05:30 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Please quote me where I said he should be put in jail without a tial.
You win a cookie if you do and you win a stfu if you can't. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 05:30 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent I said a Dean tactic.
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10-05-2006, 05:32 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Then what does it have to do with this?
Other than your compulsion to throw out yet another meaningless thing to try and turn this on the other party. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 05:38 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Keep it civil guys. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 05:39 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent They aren't excuses if they are true. It then becomes news.
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10-05-2006, 05:45 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent By that statement, Dean said it's ok to call a Republican guilty even when all the information isn't in. You can also look at the Valerie Plame incident and the Bush National Guard incident. All things the Demcocrats jumped into with both feet demanding resignations, impeachments etc. And as time went on, we found out that those things weren't quite as they seemed. Just like this incident seems to be showing.
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10-05-2006, 05:47 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Because a hack news site has bloggers "investigating" all this and grasping at straws.
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10-05-2006, 05:48 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Bloggers found the Bush forgeries and the doctored Photos from the ME
 Laugh all you want. It might not last long. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 05:53 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent In case you haven't noticed, it's the new media. Everyone else has already realized this...
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10-05-2006, 07:10 PM
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| Political Genius  Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by sj23
Because he does have problems no matter the outcome of all these rumors and investigations. The details matter little now for Foley except in the legal sence. But they do matter in term of politcal manipulation. And I would like to see this reporting from other sources other than Drudge before conclusion jumping. But he does have a good track record of breaking news even with his politcal bias. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 07:41 PM
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| Last Starfighter  Independent Northern California
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent
I haven't seen the transcripts. A resignation over it it not neccessarily a sign of guilt, unless if you're the type that say junk like "if he's innocent he has nothing to hide". And he has to be defended because people like you only make him out to be guilty no matter what. Now, if there's hard evidence to support it, and I mean something like being filmed or pictures being taken. That's the only thing that will convince me if he's guilty. I've seen a few cases of false allegations of child abuse/sexual molestation ruin lives unneccessarily because of attitudes like those, | ||||
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10-05-2006, 07:42 PM
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| Last Starfighter Independent Northern California
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10-05-2006, 07:48 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Diamond Cross Mark Foley scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://abcnews.go.com/images/WNT/foley_excerpts4.pdf | ||||
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10-05-2006, 07:53 PM
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| Last Starfighter Independent Northern California
| Sorry, but that's still not hard (no pun intended) enugh evidence for me. Anybody can make these kinds of claims, especially with all the porn there is on the internet. | ||||
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10-05-2006, 07:56 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Diamond Cross It actually seems to me the kids were playing along with him. That's the weirdest part...and the fact they saved the messages, as if they knew they'd need them again. Who really saves their IM conversations?
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10-05-2006, 10:13 PM
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| where the porn at?  Realist Englewood, CO
| Originally Posted by lew if so, why did he step down? why did he come out and admit he is a drunk and that he was molested? sounds kind of extreme for an innocent guy.  | ||||
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10-05-2006, 10:31 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by SICKGUY Like I have said before. He still shouldn't have done it. If the kid was 18 or 17 or 16. It's not proper for a man of power to have sexual relations (physical or over the net) with the people that serve them. Just like the military forbids officers dating enlisted and many companies forbiding mangagers dating their employees. What he did was wrong so he resigned. I guess we'll see if what he did was illegal.
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10-05-2006, 11:11 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat |
