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Old 10-06-2006, 08:28 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
Oh go fuck yourself.

And I say the same thing to liberals who say the same things about conservatives.


Stupidity abounds on both sides.


Direct your posts at the topic and not the user please.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:37 PM   #22
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:37 AM   #23
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Youtube can do what it wants (within law), but I certainly don't think it should censor any point of view.

I have seen plenty of Islamic videos, pretty damn funny imo
 
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Old 10-07-2006, 07:59 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
There are too many instances where the UK has been bending over backwards to accomodate Muslims. The example I posted is an attempt to hire more Muslim police...for what purpose? So that only Muslims can arrest Muslims? Equal opportunity? Hasn't the US already shown how faulted affirmative action is?
Although I generally feel that pandering to such concerns actually is 'racist', it is because there are those who point to the 'lack' of minority cops & judges etc. to justify their own agenda of hate that I accept the need to seek to encourage minority recruitment in the police & judiciary. This process is of course open to abuse
Its my impression that the recruitment of 'minority' cops in the US is seen as a success. Either way racism in UK police is probably best countered in this fashion

You want more examples? How about the British prison systems remodeling their prisons so that Muslim prisoners don't have to urinate towards the sun (apparently against their religion)
The British prison accommodate people of many religions & beliefs, ..., vegans aren't forced to eat meat for example. The phrase 'remodelling' is putting the case a bit strongly, IMO. Its just a couple of urinals repositioned

Or how about making it illegal to have pigs seen anywhere in any offices in England, becuase it might 'offend some Mulsims who come into the offices'?
It isn't illegal to display images of pigs in offices in the UK. Although a few offices have adopted such a practice, ..., it is rare. No Muslim I know is offended by images of pigs, ..., although I do know 1 Muslim who has objections to all images of creation, ..., but he is seen as a bit of a looney by everyone else. Incidentally he is opposed to suicide bombers as he says its un-Islamic

There are plenty more examples that you seem to forget, but certainly you know about them?
Why the question mark?
I mentioned the Jack Straw comments. There are two other current cause celebres, ..., the Muslim cop who was removed from guarding the Israeli embassy during the recent conflict in Lebanon, (it was for fear of his relatives safety, not so he could pick & choose his tasks), & the situation in Windsor around the planning permission for a prayer room at a local dairy, (it has degenerated into openly racists fear & violence on both sides)

The attempts to paint me as a Muslim-hater is not becoming of you. I'm hardly trying to paint Muslims in a bad way; I'm merely saying our reaction out of fear of the threats is pathetic. There's no way we'd do such things for anybody else; why do it for Muslims?
Firstly I accept that the post was about being overly PC out of fear of violence. My apologises.

However my point is that there is far too much emphasis on this. Typically Muslims in Birmingham are angry with the hostile attention that the rise of jihadism has brought them, (not counting the deaths etc.), & they blame the jihadists for this

Most even accept the increased 'profiling' that this has brought. A good example would be the two student who were removed from the plane because they were using a phones in airports because a 13 year old girl got scared. They appeared on TV & said that they understood that persons of west Asian appearance were likely to be subject to greater scrutiny t airports

The supposed overly PC 'bending over backwards' to Muslims is nothing of the sort, ..., its called being polite & is an example of inclusiveness & applies to many groups not just Muslims.

The debate on Muslim dress sparked by Straws comments is an example of how the issues of incipient racism & possible tendencies to 'separateness' are being openly discussed.
I'm not happy myself with the public general reaction on this. Other peoples dress is their own concern & shouldn't be legislated upon. Further choosing to see the veil as a desire to proclaim ones 'separateness' is almost certainly not accurate, ..., IMO the motivation, (in the UK) is almost certainly one of ones own self-image. Its likely a desire to get out of the body image rat-race that many women find themselves in.

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