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Old 10-06-2006, 02:00 PM   #1
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Should Voting machines/slips be bilingual?

I just heard this on a political add on the radio (I hate this time of year) and was wondering what the LL peeps think about this.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:02 PM   #2
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This is a close one for me and with enough good arguments I might change my mind. But really, if you can't speak or read English, should you really be voting?
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:04 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
This is a close one for me and with enough good arguments I might change my mind. But really, if you can't speak or read English, should you really be voting?
probably not. If you're born here, you pretty much are guaranteed to speak english. If you are naturalized, you must (with very few exceptions) show competence in english.

I don't see the need for multi lingual ballots
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:26 PM   #4
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If the district is made up by people, the people pay the taxes, it should reflect whatever language the district speaks.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:30 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
This is a close one for me and with enough good arguments I might change my mind. But really, if you can't speak or read English, should you really be voting?
Chances are, if you can't speak english, you are going to vote Democratic

As such, I completely agree with bilingual voting, and also we should grant amnesty so all those people can vote
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:10 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post

and also we should grant amnesty so all those people can vote
Really? Even if they aren't citizens?
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:16 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Chances are, if you can't speak english, you are going to vote Democratic

As such, I completely agree with bilingual voting, and also we should grant amnesty so all those people can vote
Of course, anything to get the votes.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:23 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Of course, anything to get the votes.
Link that amnesty would lead to the destruction of America?

I think the day laborers standing outside home depot would be better Americans than those who protest military funerals because the military isn't anti-gay enough
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:29 PM   #9
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Link that amnesty would lead to the destruction of America?

I think the day laborers standing outside home depot would be better Americans than those who protest military funerals because the military isn't anti-gay enough
because their views are more in line with yours, they will be better americans?
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:35 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Link that amnesty would lead to the destruction of America?

I think the day laborers standing outside home depot would be better Americans than those who protest military funerals because the military isn't anti-gay enough
Ancient Rome?

The Balkans?

France?
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:42 PM   #11
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Municipalities should not be forced one way or the other. Let them handle it themselves. If they want them bilingual, fine. If not, too bad for the people who can't read it.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:52 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Ancient Rome?

The Balkans?

France?
American Tribes?
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:56 PM   #13
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I think ballots should be printed on the day of the election. Mock them up in as many languages as is necessary and have some number of each available. As the "Indo-chechnyan tabouli" stack gets low print up a few more.

I also think it's a bad thing to "require" english seeing as it's not the official language..............BUT, I'd be all for making it the official language and requiring everything to happen in english.
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
American Tribes?
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:06 PM   #15
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If people need them in another language and they have the right to vote, I don't see why we should be hesitant about providing ballots in another language.

We have no official language, so
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:10 PM   #16
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We have no official language, so
And that's the part I disagree with. Every other country shows some sort of distaste when we go to their country and make no attempt to learn their language; we too often expect them to know English. The French are a prime example of this. Why can't we as Americans expect the same from others, especially those that want to be a true part of the country? What is it, 7 yrs as a resident before you can actually vote? If someone doesn't know English after living here that long, something is wrong.
 
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I agree since we have no official language...if they want a special ballet they should be able to get one.

If our official language was english, then no, it should be in all english. That being said I think our official language should be english and that all ballets should be in english.
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
And that's the part I disagree with. Every other country shows some sort of distaste when we go to their country and make no attempt to learn their language; we too often expect them to know English. The French are a prime example of this. Why can't we as Americans expect the same from others, especially those that want to be a true part of the country? What is it, 7 yrs as a resident before you can actually vote? If someone doesn't know English after living here that long, something is wrong.
And it's perfectly within their rights not to know english.
Do you know spanish? Because pretty soon(if not already) spanish speakers will be a majority in this country.
 
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How many of the first generation Italian, etc, that come over here really integrated fully into the culture?

Didn't it take a generation or two before those groups of people really integrated enough to be looked at as an immigration success story?

I'm not fully against an "official language", it could save money for documents being printed in multiple languages, etc.. but as long as we don't have one, we should probably provide people with the right to vote documents they're capable of reading.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:18 PM   #20
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If memory serves me correctly... if you are not born in mexico you can't vote for president in their country. Even if you become a citizen.

Not to mention you need to earn 40,000 times the average daily wage in mexico city to become a citizen, and you are not eligable to own beach front property.
 
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