ACORN to play a role in the census

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by northhunter

one bite is too many

if they were discussing tax matters and the people some ways to kinda of bend the rules a little I don't think it would have surprised anyone.

Instead they were helping the pimp and the prostitute plan out their human smuggling/child prostitute ring, it really does shock the conscience.

[Donkey®]

Lawls. I love how this prostitution thing was some kind of "ACORN" conspiracy instead of just a couple of ignorant people.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Lawls. I love how this prostitution thing was some kind of "ACORN" conspiracy instead of just a couple of ignorant people.

Corrupt employees make a corrupt organization. Weren't 12 just arrested earlier this week to for voter fraud?

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Corrupt employees make a corrupt organization. Weren't 12 just arrested earlier this week to for voter fraud?

Their hiring abilities are one thing...a directive to help out pimps and prostitutes? Not really.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Lawls. I love how this prostitution thing was some kind of "ACORN" conspiracy instead of just a couple of ignorant people.

umm they were ACORN employees at ACORN office space giving advice:

Free Tax Prep
ACORN is now providing free tax preparation for low and moderate income families in partnership with the IRS Volunteer Income Tax Preparation (VITA) program.
Housing Counseling
ACORN Housing provides one-on-one mortgage loan counseling, first-time homebuyer classes, and helps clients obtain affordable mortgages through our unique lending partnerships.

ACORN: Local ACORN Office

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

umm they were ACORN employees at ACORN office space giving advice:

Free Tax Prep
ACORN is now providing free tax preparation for low and moderate income families in partnership with the IRS Volunteer Income Tax Preparation (VITA) program.
Housing Counseling
ACORN Housing provides one-on-one mortgage loan counseling, first-time homebuyer classes, and helps clients obtain affordable mortgages through our unique lending partnerships.

ACORN: Local ACORN Office

Come on dude. You're not that stupid. Watch the videos and look at the people giving the advice? Have you ever been to Baltimore? As soon as I saw the city it happened I KNEW EXACTLY what it was...a couple of morons.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Come on dude. You're not that stupid. Watch the videos and look at the people giving the advice? Have you ever been to Baltimore? As soon as I saw the city it happened I KNEW EXACTLY what it was...a couple of morons.

wait, what? You are saying that any place other then the Inner Harbor is a habitable place in Baltimore?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Come on dude. You're not that stupid. Watch the videos and look at the people giving the advice? Have you ever been to Baltimore? As soon as I saw the city it happened I KNEW EXACTLY what it was...a couple of morons.

What makes you believe the all other ACORN workers are intelligent? Don't they hire a bunch of ex-cons and lower class people then force them to meet quotas or lose their jobs? That's the problem with ACORN. They intentionally hire these types of people because they can then control them and get the results they want. When things go wrong they blame their "moron" employees and cut ties. Seems like our federal government should cut ties with this "moron" organization and use credible sources to assist in federal engagements.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by JaJae

What makes you believe the all other ACORN workers are intelligent? Don't they hire a bunch of ex-cons and lower class people then force them to meet quotas or lose their jobs? That's the problem with ACORN. They intentionally hire these types of people because they can then control them and get the results they want. When things go wrong they blame their "moron" employees and cut ties. Seems like our federal government should cut ties with this "moron" organization and use credible sources to assist in federal engagements.

Wow. Sorry you hate those not of your ilk as well as people above you (Obama.)

They are COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZERS. They pull people from their own communities to HELP their OWN COMMUNITIES. So yes, in spite of your need for all of these people to be white, educated, middle class males...they are not. They are a reflection of their communities. While some may not be the smartest apples in the bushel, I think it's great they are out there trying to help their community.

When you show me the memo from the management of ACORN telling their employees to "help pimps and prostitutes set up illegal business tax shelters to get by the government eye" then you have something. Otherwise, stop blaming anyone more than the individuals doing stupid things.

I bring up the soldier analogy again. So soldiers raped and murdered Iraqis...all soldiers are bad? The military as an organization is bad?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Wow. Sorry you hate those not of your ilk as well as people above you (Obama.)

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Troll, troll, troll your boat...

[kinggovernor]

lol NYC office offered the same advice:
Big Government Blog Archive ACORN Video: Prostitution Scandal in New York, NY

[kinggovernor]

ACORN mulls suit against Fox News
By: Michael Falcone
September 14, 2009 05:23 PM EST

Facing intensifying scrutiny after the release of several disturbing hidden camera videos, the community organizing group, ACORN, is threatening to sue Fox News, the website Breitbart.com and the two conservative activists who produced the exposes.

ACORN is alleging that the filmmakers committed a felony by shooting the footage of ACORN employees in the act of providing advice on how to falsify tax forms and set-up a child prostitution business—to a man and a woman posing as a pimp and a prostitute.

A lawyer for ACORN said Monday that statutes in Maryland and the District of Columbia made the undercover filming illegal and that the same laws should prohibit the rebroadcast of the tapes by the Web site BigGovernment.com, where they were first posted last week, and on Fox News, which aired clips of the videos.

BigGovernment.com, which launched last Wednesday, is a project of Andrew Breitbart, the founder of Breitbart.com. The videos show James O’Keefe, a conservative activist, and Hannah Giles, who is listed as a contributor on the right-leaning website, TownHall.com, visiting ACORN offices in Baltimore and Brooklyn and an ACORN Housing Corporation branch in Washington, D.C.

“It is clear that the videos are doctored, edited, and in no way the result of the fabricated story being portrayed by conservative activist ‘filmmaker’ O’Keefe and his partner in crime,’ ACORN chief organizer Bertha Lewis said in a statement over the weekend. “And, in fact, a crime it was—our lawyers believe a felony—and we will be taking legal action against Fox and their co-conspirators.”

After the videos surfaced two ACORN employees in Baltimore and two others at the Washington office of the off-shoot housing corporation, a separate organization, were fired.

“I cannot and I will not defend the actions of the workers depicted in the video,” Lewis said in her statement. She added that the “scam,” was also attempted but failed at other ACORN offices in San Diego, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, and Philadelphia.

Breitbart said Monday that the release of a new video from Brooklyn disproved ACORN’s claims that the activists made failed attempts in other cities.

“ACORN was wrong in their initial defense that it succeeded in only one place because obviously it worked in a second and third place,” he said. “Their defense is as hapless as the behavior witnessed on those videos. This is clearly an organization in internal turmoil over James and Hannah’s exposure. The longer that the mainstream media ignores this massive story, the more that ACORN has to accumulate data in order to form a line of attack to annihilate the messenger.”

Arthur Schwartz, a lawyer for ACORN, said he planned to file a lawsuit in federal court in Baltimore on Thursday against O’Keefe and Giles that would “probably” also include Breitbart.com and Fox News.

O’Keefe and Giles appeared Sunday on Fox News to defend the films.

“Bring it on,” O’Keefe said of a potential lawsuit.

In a blog posting on BigGovernment.com, Giles described the undercover operation as a “silly idea” that “escalated into a full blown operation with scripts, method acting, undercover gear, scandalous outfits.”

“James and I saw the ACORN Housing location in Baltimore as a target — the den of a giant corrupt lion. We wanted to get a reaction and gauge the corruption,” Giles wrote. “We came armed with the things necessary to cause a reaction; we came equipped with the things necessary to capture the reaction. We expected to be successful.”

ACORN mulls suit against Fox News - Michael Falcone - POLITICO.com

I sure hope they sue, it will ensure that this story stays in the news cycle for sometime. Oh and its funny that they waited to release the NYC tape until Acorn denied that it happened :bowrolf:

[JaJae]

Bill passed in the Senate to suspend future federal spending to ACORN. Only seven senators opposed:

Roland Burris (D-IL)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Robert Casey (D-PA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

There's talks about removing their non-profit status. It will be interesting to see if there will be an investigation into the organization. I'm sure that would turn up some hilarity.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Bill passed in the Senate to suspend future federal spending to ACORN. Only seven senators opposed:

Roland Burris (D-IL)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Robert Casey (D-PA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

There's talks about removing their non-profit status. It will be interesting to see if there will be an investigation into the organization. I'm sure that would turn up some hilarity.

Good. It's obvious the organization is rife with illegal activities and they seem to have no way to control it. No need to have the government support that in any way.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)

I was considering a vote for her, not any more.

[kinggovernor]

so it looks like there is another tape coming out tonight from San Bernadino that is supposed to be even worse then the three other tapes

[Donkey®]

I am trying to figure out why you guys are so focused on something that really doesn't matter? This obsession with Acorn is unhealthy.

[wanna be drummer]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am trying to figure out why you guys are so focused on something that really doesn't matter? This obsession with Acorn is unhealthy.

Agreed

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am trying to figure out why you guys are so focused on something that really doesn't matter? This obsession with Acorn is unhealthy.

so now you want to trivialize the impact of ACORN, after the 4th office tape comes out.

Obama invited these people to help shape his administration, they have their thorns in many policy issues, so yes they do matter.