ACORN to play a role in the census

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

Obama invited these people to help shape his administration, they have their thorns in many policy issues, so yes they do matter.

What? The people involved in the various scandals "shape" the Obama admin? Not that I am going to doubt you...but give me a fucking break. Larquita does not have a direct line to Obama. Period. Acorn this, Acorn that...fuck...find a new hobby. These people nor this organization matter. (and I never thought they did so there's now 'now' I am trivializing because I never saw their importance to begin with.) Now you're just harping on and on when there are so many more important things to pay attention to.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

What? The people involved in the various scandals "shape" the Obama admin? Not that I am going to doubt you...but give me a fucking break. Larquita does not have a direct line to Obama. Period. Acorn this, Acorn that...fuck...find a new hobby. These people nor this organization matter. (and I never thought they did so there's now 'now' I am trivializing because I never saw their importance to begin with.) Now you're just harping on and on when there are so many more important things to pay attention to.

Funny that they don't matter yet you are always to first person to come and post in opposition to anything said about them. If they didn't matter then you wouldn't post anything at all. I guess they matter.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

What? The people involved in the various scandals "shape" the Obama admin? Not that I am going to doubt you...

I am glad that you don't doubt me, because Obama has spelled it out quite clearly that they do.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Funny that they don't matter yet you are always to first person to come and post in opposition to anything said about them. If they didn't matter then you wouldn't post anything at all. I guess they matter.

Anything you and your friends post...I post opposite. Thought you'd caught that by now.

[kinggovernor]

here is the 4th office:

YouTube - ACORN San Bernadino Child Prostitution...

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

here is the 4th office:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8w9GEpSz - ACORN San Bernadino Child Prostitution Investigation Part I[/url]

Again...the only thing this video says...like the others...is that people are morons. When you are a COMMUNITY organization...you should expect to see the COMMUNITY. Acorn obviously had liberal hiring policies...but I still see no proof of a organization wide directive to provide "prostitution tax evasion" assistance.

I suppose you have that memo somewhere?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

What? The people involved in the various scandals "shape" the Obama admin? Not that I am going to doubt you...but give me a fucking break. Larquita does not have a direct line to Obama. Period. Acorn this, Acorn that...fuck...find a new hobby. These people nor this organization matter. (and I never thought they did so there's now 'now' I am trivializing because I never saw their importance to begin with.) Now you're just harping on and on when there are so many more important things to pay attention to.

This is starting to remind me of the list of people the Clintons had "killed".

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Again...the only thing this video says...like the others...is that people are morons. When you are a COMMUNITY organization...you should expect to see the COMMUNITY. Acorn obviously had liberal hiring policies...but I still see no proof of a organization wide directive to provide "prostitution tax evasion" assistance.

I suppose you have that memo somewhere?

I have already shown in this thread the corruption from the very top of Acorn, you just called it an "internal matter".

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

here is the 4th office:

YouTube - ACORN San Bernadino Child Prostitution Investigation Part I

turns out she didn't kill her husband

[garbagemanlb]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

turns out she didn't kill her husband

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

turns out she didn't kill her husband

Well that's a relief!

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

I have already shown in this thread the corruption from the very top of Acorn, you just called it an "internal matter".

You showed one incident which was handled within the organization where someone stole money. Happens all the time in the corporate world. Still doesn't make the corporation as a whole corrupt.

[kinggovernor]

Jon Stewart takes on Fox News smear job:
The Daily Show Full Episode | Tuesday Sep 15 2009 | Comedy Central

oh wait, he didn't

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You showed one incident which was handled within the organization where someone stole money. Happens all the time in the corporate world. Still doesn't make the corporation as a whole corrupt.

it wasn't "handled" it was covered up.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Again...the only thing this video says...like the others...is that people are morons. When you are a COMMUNITY organization...you should expect to see the COMMUNITY. Acorn obviously had liberal hiring policies...but I still see no proof of a organization wide directive to provide "prostitution tax evasion" assistance.

I suppose you have that memo somewhere?

Nobody is claiming that ACORN has an official policy of prostitution tax evasion service. That would be absurd. What people are saying is that the organization as a whole does some pretty fucked up shit and perhaps, just perhaps our tax dollars could be better spent and perhaps, just perhaps they shouldn't be given the authority to handle the census for the federal government. But hey, it's easier to cover our eyes and look the other way.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

it wasn't "handled" it was covered up.

That's how they "handle" things. It's interesting how some people find that perfectly acceptable. Hell why stop at the census, let's let them "handle" other things like welfare checks, food stamps and public housing.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Nobody is claiming that ACORN has an official policy of prostitution tax evasion service. That would be absurd. What people are saying is that the organization as a whole does some pretty fucked up shit and perhaps, just perhaps our tax dollars could be better spent and perhaps, just perhaps they shouldn't be given the authority to handle the census for the federal government. But hey, it's easier to cover our eyes and look the other way.

Much like we do with war profiteers, insurance companies and banks.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrum

Much like we do with war profiteers, insurance companies and banks.

Or Pharma companies, Amirite?
Secret Memo reveals White House had a secret deal with Pharma Companies

Oh wait. Crickets then. Hmmm.

[kinggovernor]

Embattled ACORN orders independent investigation

By SHARON THEIMER (AP) – 32 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — An advocacy group under fire after employees were caught on camera appearing to advise a couple posing as a prostitute and pimp to lie about the woman's profession to get housing help said Wednesday it is ordering an independent investigation.

The group, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, known as ACORN, said it is refusing new admissions into its service programs.

ACORN will work with its advisory council, which includes prominent supporters of President Barack Obama, such as John Podesta, president of the nonprofit Center for American Progress, and Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, to name an independent auditor and investigator, ACORN chief executive Bertha Lewis said in a written statement.

The investigation will examine all the systems and processes called into question by the video, Lewis said.

In addition, ACORN won't accept new admissions into its community service programs, effective immediately, and within the next few days will conduct staff training, she said.

Lewis said the steps were being taken in response to "the indefensible action of a handful of our employees."

The moves are among several developments in recent days involving ACORN, a liberal-leaning group that is a popular target for Republicans. In addition to the hidden-camera video, it is under scrutiny for several voter-registration fraud cases.

Some Republicans are urging the Justice Department to investigate ACORN. The Senate voted Monday to block the Housing and Urban Development Department from giving grants to ACORN, and the Census Bureau last week severed its ties with the group for the 2010 national head-count.

Asked Wednesday about the controversy, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that "obviously the conduct that you see on those tapes is completely unacceptable."

"I think everyone would agree with that. The administration takes accountability extremely seriously," Gibbs said. "I think the Census Bureau evaluated and determined that this group could not meet the bureau's goal of achieving a fair and accurate count in 2010."

Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., said he's asked the Federal Emergency Management Agency to repeal a nearly $1 million grant it awarded to ACORN earlier this month.

FEMA awarded $997,402 to ACORN in New Orleans on Sept. 4 as part of its Fire Prevention and Safety Grants program. The group plans to use the money to assess fire safety in the homes of low and moderate-income families and hand out smoke and carbon monoxide detectors and other fire prevention gear, ACORN's Brennan Griffin said.

FEMA had no immediate comment on Bilirakis' request.

Gibbs said he assumed that federal agencies "constantly evaluate to ensure that any grantee is living up to what has to happen in order to fulfill that grant application."

The video released Monday was among several that have prompted the firing of at least four ACORN employees in Baltimore and Washington. It was created by James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles and posted on BigGovernment.com, where O'Keefe identifies himself as an activist filmmaker.

In the film, O'Keefe and Giles enter an ACORN office in Brooklyn and O'Keefe can be heard stating that "we have a unique life situation" and asking if the pair qualify for housing help.

The ACORN housing coordinator and office administrator apparently urge the couple to lie about the woman's profession, with the housing coordinator suggesting that the woman launder the money.

"We have all been deeply disturbed by what we've seen in some of these videos," Lewis said, adding that the group "will go to whatever lengths necessary to re-establish the public trust."

Associated Press writers Ben Feller and Eileen Sullivan in Washington contributed to this report.
On the Net:

* ACORN: http://www.acorn.org

The Associated Press: Embattled ACORN orders independent investigation

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

The Associated Press: Embattled ACORN orders independent investigation

What a wonderfully objective panel to investigate their issues. I'm dying in anxiety to see what they're going to find.