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Old 10-11-2006, 01:17 AM   #21
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But the point is, the Jews do not control American Media. Where people get that idea from is a little publication written for a play called The Protocols of the Learned Elders Of Zion, which has proven to be a fake over and over again.

Well, okay. This video convinces me I'm wrong.

911 Pentagon, World Trade Center, Who is in Controls of America - Google Video

There's only one real answer, of course since there can be no fairness from the American media. Here's a list of the Jews who control all American media everywhere:

Sabbah’s Blog » Blog Archive » Who Rules America?

In short:

Time Warner is controlled by Steve Case and Gerald Levin, and Warner of course refers to the original Warner
Brothers who were of course Jews.

Disney, Michael Eisner, A Jew

ESPN George W. Bodenheimer.


VIACOM owned by Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein)


NBC Edgar Bronfan Jr.

FOX Rupert Murdoch.

Youj're absolutely right there is a problem that these people just can not be fair to the people of the Middle East.

So what do you propose to fix it?
did you start this post by saying jews don't control the media and then convince yourself that you were wrong?
 
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:35 AM   #22
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My view isn't that Israel or Jews are in control of the media, it's that Israel has incredibly powerful lobbies that are used to wield an incredible amount of power over how the issue is framed to the American public.

I simple see that as a more sophisticated means of doing exactly what the Palestinian's do by staging events to help frame an issue in their favor.

I don't approve of either, but I understand the reasoning behind it. Everyone has an interest in making themselves appear to have the moral high ground.
 
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:13 AM   #23
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So how do you propose to solve the problem?


And I still don't agree with you. The American media is biased against Israel, despite being owned by Jews.
I guess you could call them self hating Jews.

But here is Hamas' charter if you want to read whae they are really all about:

Philladelphia Chapter of the Zionist Organization of America, ZOA

And you might want to read this:

Another amazing piece from Daniel Gordis - please read it ---
Posted by Lori on Wednesday, July 26 2006
The First War, All Over Again
Daniel Gordis
21 July 2006

Below it.
 
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:22 AM   #24
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Okay, this is one I don't agree with either:

Why Is the Press So Anti-Israel?

Essentially it says that the anti-Israeli bias in the American Media is the result of Saudi money and political influence over the Bush Administration.



Maybe I'll find one that says it's really caused by sightings of Elvis Presley clones by the NSA to root out extraterrestrial influence.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:49 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
So now you're defending this type of media staging behavior? Seriously how can you justify that? There's atrocities that have happened on both sides, the media here isn't shy about lambasting Israel simply turning the nightly news makes this appearant.

Palestine has never had a problem gathering supporters. We see a constant bias against Israel, whether its doctoring photo after photo to now staging scenes to report. This is ridiculous and excusing it as OK behavior is ridiculous.
There is a bias against Israel? What country do you live in?

Here's another question, which would you rather, "pallywood" productions, or suicide bombers?

I have never ever heard the IDF claim anything less than a 3-1 kill ratio...thousands of Palestians died in the 90s and in the second intifada

Some 1,001 Israelis were killed by Palestinian attacks in the al-Aqsa Intifada, most of them (more than 75%) civilians.
Palestinians sources claim 2,736 Palestinians killed in the intifada.
The Shin Bet has the names of 2,124 Palestinian dead.
Out of the figure of 2,124 dead, 1,414 (or 66%) were said to be combatants (armed men and/or "terrorists"). The casualties are thus assigned to organizations:
466 Hamas members
408 Fatah's Tanzim and al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades
205 Palestinian Islamic Jihad
334 of Arafat's guard Force 17, the Palestinian police and the General Intelligence
As a response to IDF statistics about Palestinian casualties in the West Bank, the Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem released press release stating that two thirds of the Palestinians killed in 2004 did not participate in the fighting[39].

Al-Aqsa Intifada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:51 AM   #26
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its not that "jews run the media"

its that non-Jewish americans don't generally care, and jewish audiences don't want to hear about palestinian human rights violations, so why air it?

Look at Rwanda, how much press coverage did that get? Or how about Reagan supporting Saddam, were Saddam's brutal tactics on CBS everynight when Reagan was supporting him?

Get some perspective

Yes, sometimes non-violent Palestinians will exagerate, its called POLITICS its what americans, germans, israelis, russians, etc EVERYONE DOES IT

You think the IDF is stupid enough to wait until there are 50 cameras, and then open up with a machine gun on a crowd of kids? They aren't genocidal maniacs, the IDF soldiers in particular believe they are the good guys, and individually they generally are...

IDF does get caught very rarely, but they are intelligent they stay away from crowds when they really cross the line:
YouTube - Ideal Terrorism, Israel is terror!

The occupation is brutal, and it looks like something taken out of Hungary's occupation by the Soviets:
YouTube - Occupied Palestine - Ideal Israeli Terrorism
Notice, they aren't hitting the police, they are simply trying to do ANYTHING to avoid getting put in the police truck...why? Because they aren't madman trying to do anything to hurt an Israeli, they simply are deathly afraid of the IDF's torture methods that all these people shown had to endure

Palestinian civilians are killed:
YouTube - Ideal Terrorism, Israel is terror!

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Old 10-12-2006, 04:39 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
My view isn't that Israel or Jews are in control of the media,
This is actually a big reason for why the Muslim cultures despise us. Their religious authorities are citing the Protocols of Zion, comparing America's status quo to "world domination" (as outlined in the Protocols), and discussing how Americans are obsessed with media, and the media is controlled by Jews. I've seen these people actually say that Ruport Murdoch is an Australian Jew. It's sad, albeit pathetic.

(ps- PM me if you're interested in seeing a documentary on this ... that goes for anyone else)
 
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:11 PM   #28
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But the thing is the Protocols of Zion are a fake. They were written for a play.
 
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:14 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
But the thing is the Protocols of Zion are a fake. They were written for a play.
...I know.
 
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