Palin v Letterman

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Of course he was. Again, on that show (that I watched because Stern was on) he mentioned Bush once, Limbaugh twice and Palin a few more times. He never once made a crack at a Democrat. So yes, his whole show he was showing his politics.

Would you like to make that bet one of stone? Are you telling me he's never made jokes about democrats?

[Scrum]

It's just an op-ed but it's pretty funny.

Top 10 Reasons Sarah Palin's "Outrage" is Misplaced and A Little Late...



10) Last September, a skit on Saturday Night Live suggested incest in the Palin family. "What about the husband?" asked a mock Times reporter. "You know he's doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It's Alaska!" No outrage. Sarah Palin appeared on the show one month later in late October.

9) Days after the announcement of Bristol's pregnancy, Conan O'Brien joked, "It's true, John McCain's running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has revealed that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. Palin said, 'We should never have introduced her to John Edwards.'" Where was the outrage? Was Conan promoting infidelity with an underage girl?

8 ) From two different Tonight Shows: "Governor Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. Oh, boy, you thought John Edwards was in trouble before, now he's really done it!" AND..."All the Republicans are heaping praise on Governor Palin. Fred Thompson said, as an actor, he could see them making a movie about Sarah Palin and her family. Didn't they already make that movie? I think it was called 'Knocked Up!'"--Jay Leno

7) Craig Ferguson's skit of "Larry King vs Levi Johnston" asks about "kinky sex" with the drapes open. Craig Ferguson's honorary Alaska citizenship, granted by Governor Palin wasn't rescinded.

6) "According to expense reports, Sarah Palin charged the state of Alaska over $21,000 for her children to travel with her on official business. In fairness to Gov. Palin, when she leaves them home alone they get pregnant." --Seth Meyers (SNL). Sarah Palin was in a sketch with Meyers a week earlier.

5) On October 8, 2008, Sarah Palin walked out on the ice with six year old Piper and 13 year old Willow, before the game, Conan O'Brien said, "Saturday night, Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box." Oh, yes he did. You get the outrage...but not a peep then. According to the new "logic", O'Brien was advocating for some really sick stuff.

4) Rush Limbaugh: "Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" Limbaugh put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. At the time, Chelsea Clinton was 13 years old. Rush also said, "In last year's campaign, the most prominent, articulate voice for standard run-of-the-mill good old-fashioned American conservatism was Sarah Palin." Calling a young teenager a "dog" can't be helpful to her "self-esteem." Where is the apology from the leader of the GOP?

3) "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."--John McCain, Sarah Palin's running mate. Should McCain apologize to every young woman in America?

2) Palin's friend, political defender and informer of the David Letterman comments, John Ziegler, was fired from his radio show for using the "n-word" online and on air in 1997. In 2000, he was fired for spelling the "n-word" on the air. How much does that word affect the psychological health of America's youth, regardless of their race? Now he is pimping his film about how mean the "liberal media" was to Sarah Palin.

AND...The NUMBER 1 REASON Sarah Palin's Outrage is Misplaced and A Little Late...

1) The "candidate who must be obeyed" was talking about Palin's family when he said, "Kids are off limits." Jake Tapper of ABC News interviewed then Candidate Obama, and asked, "Governor Palin and her husband issued a statement today saying their 17-year-old daughter Bristol, who is unmarried, is five months pregnant. Do you have any reaction?"

OBAMA: "I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off-limits. And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Governor Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And, you know, how family deals with issues and -- and, you know, teenaged children, that shouldn't be the topic of -- of our politics."

The Palin children have been fodder for comedians since they were brought to the national stage. Incest isn't funny. Ugly kid jokes aren't funny. Many of the things said about public figures are just flat wrong. Being "knocked up" isn't much fun. Racist comments hurt all of us. I exhausted the top 10 list before I ran out of outrageous instances ignored by the Palins.

The National Organization for Women named David Letterman to their Hall of Shame. Will Letterman be joining Jay Leno? Conan O'Brien? Craig Ferguson? Seth Myers? Rush Limbaugh? Or John McCain? Of course not! I guess N.O.W. didn't bother checking Sarah Palin's "feminist" credentials. All across America, right wing radio and television talk show hosts feigned outrage in perfect synchronicity. The same people who back up Palin's high drama assertions against Letterman ignored the connections between Bill O'Reilly's irresponsible incitement and the murder of Dr. George Tiller. David Letterman, a late night entertainer, apologized. Fox New's Bill O'Reilly has not.

As a parent, I understand being defensive. I just wonder what took so long. Why now?

[Photon1001]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Of course he was. Again, on that show (that I watched because Stern was on) he mentioned Bush once, Limbaugh twice and Palin a few more times. He never once made a crack at a Democrat. So yes, his whole show he was showing his politics.

OMG, they're keeping score! fucking hilarious.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Would you like to make that bet one of stone? Are you telling me he's never made jokes about democrats?

He has, I've heard him. Just not that show.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Photon1001

OMG, they're keeping score! fucking hilarious.

I thought it was funny to. I mean, the republicans are out of the picture, why keep on harping. They are last years news. Lot's of shit to talk about besides blowhard Limbaugh.

[JaJae]

He only apologized after he started losing advertisers and he had crowds of people planned to protest at his studio. It's good to see he did the right thing, would have been better if he had done it before he was monetarily forced into doing it.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

He only apologized after he started losing advertisers and he had crowds of people planned to protest at his studio. It's good to see he did the right thing, would have been better if he had done it before he was monetarily forced into doing it.

Link? I know there were some hippies that wanted to protest, but I hadn't hear about him losing advertisers.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Scrum

Link? I know there were some hippies that wanted to protest, but I hadn't hear about him losing advertisers.

Letterman's Palin Joke Costs CBS an Advertiser - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by JaJae

He only apologized after he started losing advertisers and he had crowds of people planned to protest at his studio. It's good to see he did the right thing, would have been better if he had done it before he was monetarily forced into doing it.

His ratings are going up and are as high as they have ever been. Those advertisers could have been easily replaced.

He did the wrong thing in my opinion. The "half ass" apology he gave already was more than enough and he should have just stopped talking about it.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Letterman's Palin Joke Costs CBS an Advertiser - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

So they lost one advertiser that didn't even buy ad time during his show.

[Scrum]

And they still protested his show yesterday? I can't wait to see pics of the dozens of people who care about this.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Scrum

And they still protested his show yesterday? I can't wait to see pics of the dozens of people who care about this.

Well, they protested is show yesterday because he hadn't appologized until after his show started (duh). Palin has accepted his appology and now it will go away.

Here is his full statement.

"All right, here - I've been thinking about this situation with Governor Palin and her family now for about a week - it was a week ago tonight, and maybe you know about it, maybe you don't know about it. But there was a joke that I told, and I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There's no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter, and before the show, I checked to make sure in fact that she is of legal age, 18. Yeah. But the joke really, in and of itself, can't be defended. The next day, people are outraged. They're angry at me because they said, 'How could you make a lousy joke like that about the 14-year-old girl who was at the ball game?' And I had, honestly, no idea that the 14-year-old girl, I had no idea that anybody was at the ball game except the Governor and I was told at the time she was there with Rudy Giuliani...And I really should have made the joke about Rudy..." (audience applauds) "But I didn't, and now people are getting angry and they're saying, 'Well, how can you say something like that about a 14-year-old girl, and does that make you feel good to make those horrible jokes about a kid who's completely innocent, minding her own business,' and, turns out, she was at the ball game. I had no idea she was there. So she's now at the ball game and people think that I made the joke about her. And, but still, I'm wondering, 'Well, what can I do to help people understand that I would never make a joke like this?' I've never made jokes like this as long as we've been on the air, 30 long years, and you can't really be doing jokes like that. And I understand, of course, why people are upset. I would be upset myself.

"And then I was watching the Jim Lehrer 'Newshour' - this commentator, the columnist Mark Shields, was talking about how I had made this indefensible joke about the 14-year-old girl, and I thought, 'Oh, boy, now I'm beginning to understand what the problem is here. It's the perception rather than the intent.' It doesn't make any difference what my intent was, it's the perception. And, as they say about jokes, if you have to explain the joke, it's not a very good joke. And I'm certainly - " (audience applause) "- thank you. Well, my responsibility - I take full blame for that. I told a bad joke. I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception. And since it was a joke I told, I feel that I need to do the right thing here and apologize for having told that joke. It's not your fault that it was misunderstood, it's my fault. That it was misunderstood." (audience applauds) "Thank you. So I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the Governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I'm sorry about it and I'll try to do better in the future. Thank you very much."

He understands why people were upset and did the right thing. Good for him.

[DosEquis]

Welcome to another episode of pussy hurt right wingers. I'm simply amazed.

[Photon1001]

Originally Posted by Scrum

It's just an op-ed but it's pretty funny.

Top 10 Reasons Sarah Palin's "Outrage" is Misplaced and A Little Late...



10) Last September, a skit on Saturday Night Live suggested incest in the Palin family. "What about the husband?" asked a mock Times reporter. "You know he's doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It's Alaska!" No outrage. Sarah Palin appeared on the show one month later in late October.

9) Days after the announcement of Bristol's pregnancy, Conan O'Brien joked, "It's true, John McCain's running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has revealed that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. Palin said, 'We should never have introduced her to John Edwards.'" Where was the outrage? Was Conan promoting infidelity with an underage girl?

8 ) From two different Tonight Shows: "Governor Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. Oh, boy, you thought John Edwards was in trouble before, now he's really done it!" AND..."All the Republicans are heaping praise on Governor Palin. Fred Thompson said, as an actor, he could see them making a movie about Sarah Palin and her family. Didn't they already make that movie? I think it was called 'Knocked Up!'"--Jay Leno

7) Craig Ferguson's skit of "Larry King vs Levi Johnston" asks about "kinky sex" with the drapes open. Craig Ferguson's honorary Alaska citizenship, granted by Governor Palin wasn't rescinded.

6) "According to expense reports, Sarah Palin charged the state of Alaska over $21,000 for her children to travel with her on official business. In fairness to Gov. Palin, when she leaves them home alone they get pregnant." --Seth Meyers (SNL). Sarah Palin was in a sketch with Meyers a week earlier.

5) On October 8, 2008, Sarah Palin walked out on the ice with six year old Piper and 13 year old Willow, before the game, Conan O'Brien said, "Saturday night, Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box." Oh, yes he did. You get the outrage...but not a peep then. According to the new "logic", O'Brien was advocating for some really sick stuff.

4) Rush Limbaugh: "Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" Limbaugh put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. At the time, Chelsea Clinton was 13 years old. Rush also said, "In last year's campaign, the most prominent, articulate voice for standard run-of-the-mill good old-fashioned American conservatism was Sarah Palin." Calling a young teenager a "dog" can't be helpful to her "self-esteem." Where is the apology from the leader of the GOP?

3) "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."--John McCain, Sarah Palin's running mate. Should McCain apologize to every young woman in America?

2) Palin's friend, political defender and informer of the David Letterman comments, John Ziegler, was fired from his radio show for using the "n-word" online and on air in 1997. In 2000, he was fired for spelling the "n-word" on the air. How much does that word affect the psychological health of America's youth, regardless of their race? Now he is pimping his film about how mean the "liberal media" was to Sarah Palin.

AND...The NUMBER 1 REASON Sarah Palin's Outrage is Misplaced and A Little Late...

1) The "candidate who must be obeyed" was talking about Palin's family when he said, "Kids are off limits." Jake Tapper of ABC News interviewed then Candidate Obama, and asked, "Governor Palin and her husband issued a statement today saying their 17-year-old daughter Bristol, who is unmarried, is five months pregnant. Do you have any reaction?"

OBAMA: "I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off-limits. And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Governor Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And, you know, how family deals with issues and -- and, you know, teenaged children, that shouldn't be the topic of -- of our politics."

The Palin children have been fodder for comedians since they were brought to the national stage. Incest isn't funny. Ugly kid jokes aren't funny. Many of the things said about public figures are just flat wrong. Being "knocked up" isn't much fun. Racist comments hurt all of us. I exhausted the top 10 list before I ran out of outrageous instances ignored by the Palins.

The National Organization for Women named David Letterman to their Hall of Shame. Will Letterman be joining Jay Leno? Conan O'Brien? Craig Ferguson? Seth Myers? Rush Limbaugh? Or John McCain? Of course not! I guess N.O.W. didn't bother checking Sarah Palin's "feminist" credentials. All across America, right wing radio and television talk show hosts feigned outrage in perfect synchronicity. The same people who back up Palin's high drama assertions against Letterman ignored the connections between Bill O'Reilly's irresponsible incitement and the murder of Dr. George Tiller. David Letterman, a late night entertainer, apologized. Fox New's Bill O'Reilly has not.

As a parent, I understand being defensive. I just wonder what took so long. Why now?

to answer the articles question, its because hipocracy is inherent in conservatism, or at least "small government" conservatism. One cannot believe in small government without also believing in government.

This entire charade is crap, btw. Complete crap. At the very least, its Republicans clearly desperate for attention. In more likeliness, its probably more distraction than story. I just wonder what it is we are to be distracted from...

[Swift]

Originally Posted by Photon1001

to answer the articles question, its because hipocracy is inherent in conservatism, or at least "small government" conservatism. One cannot believe in small government without also believing in government.

Man that was funny.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Photon1001

to answer the articles question, its because hipocracy is inherent in conservatism, or at least "small government" conservatism. One cannot believe in small government without also believing in government.

This entire charade is crap, btw. Complete crap. At the very least, its Republicans clearly desperate for attention. In more likeliness, its probably more distraction than story. I just wonder what it is we are to be distracted from...

Did Palin go after Dave for no reason or did Dave go after her 14 year old? You have to remember who started this. If he would have been more careful about what he said, it wouldn't have happened.

Again, Dave understands what he did and (finally) took responsibility for it.

Again, I'll compare this to what I did and wrote about in Speakeasy. I said something I shouldn't have. I appologized for it because I knew it was wrong. I know you guys think Palin is the reincarnation of Hitler and she and her hell spawn deserve every bad thing ever said about them, but that's not the real world. Sorry

[Photon1001]

no, Hitler could probably spell nuclear.

[Photon1001]

Originally Posted by Swift

Man that was funny.

So why aren't you an anarchist then? Oh, thats right...

[Swift]

Originally Posted by Photon1001

So why aren't you an anarchist then? Oh, thats right...

Nah, it's actually because you're argument is hilarious.

One cannot believe in small government without also believing in government

So, you have to believe in big government to not be a hypocrite about government as an institution? Oh man...

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Did Palin go after Dave for no reason or did Dave go after her 14 year old? You have to remember who started this. If he would have been more careful about what he said, it wouldn't have happened.

Again, Dave understands what he did and (finally) took responsibility for it.

Again, I'll compare this to what I did and wrote about in Speakeasy. I said something I shouldn't have. I appologized for it because I knew it was wrong. I know you guys think Palin is the reincarnation of Hitler and she and her hell spawn deserve every bad thing ever said about them, but that's not the real world. Sorry

Where was the outrage @ all the other late night jokes?