The Democrats Darkest Day

Jack · 07-03-2009, 05:02 PM

Here comes Sarah Palin. I can see them now, all huddled around case of Gin worrying about what they done to the country. Now Sarah will take it to the people.( anyone getting the shuttle ready yet)

JDTC · 07-03-2009, 05:32 PM

Hi, billy mays here.

Kaboom and the troll is gone!

Donkey® · 07-03-2009, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jack

Here comes Sarah Palin. I can see them now, all huddled around case of Gin worrying about what they done to the country. Now Sarah will take it to the people.( anyone getting the shuttle ready yet)

Fuck that ignorant whore.

Jack · 07-05-2009, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Fuck that ignorant whore.

See your scared shitless already

Jack · 07-05-2009, 10:06 AM

To bad you see it that way. I have to disagree. The Sarah Pain that will put this country back together will not bend to forign dictators, will get jobs back in American hands. Will not nationalize companies and raise taxes. She will decrease the size of the government and give the country back to the people. Above all she will protect the country and its people. Shes an American above all other politicians.

Winston · 07-05-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

Sarah Palin is a shallow and superficial person, and her character a flimsy façade; she is all pro forma and no substance. She is appealing to people that are so simple as to be impressed by nothing more than appearances. (Indeed, the former beauty pageant contestant has come a long way on that small capital.) The Republicans would do better to find a person of substantial character, intellect and ability - one able to deal with the world’s leaders, and lead the greatest nation of the world. A hokey “hockey mom” is not such a person.

Yeah buddies, what we need for a president is a Yale or Harvard graduate, it has worked so damn good so far, why kick the sleeping dog?

Winston · 07-05-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Fuck that ignorant whore.

Yeah, stupid policies she adopted-like a windfall profits tax on the oil industry. Oh wait, Obama supports that.

Stupid policies like shooting wolves from helicopters and proclaiming the polar bear is not an endangered species. Oh wait, Obama supports that.

Yeah, stupid policies like expanding the already bloated defense budget--spend more than Ronald Reagan and his Star Wars initiative--oh wait, Obama is doing that.

Stupid policies, like proclaiming there has been a "stolen" election in Iran and yet ignoring what is happening in Honduras and Mexico--oh wait, that is Obama again.

Stupid policies like extraordinary rendition, infinite confinement of "enemy combatants" without a trial, and the covert survelliance of American citizens without warrants--oh wait, that's Obama again.

DosEquis · 07-05-2009, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Winston

Yeah, stupid policies she adopted-like a windfall profits tax on the oil industry. Oh wait, Obama supports that.

Stupid policies like shooting wolves from helicopters and proclaiming the polar bear is not an endangered species. Oh wait, Obama supports that.

Yeah, stupid policies like expanding the already bloated defense budget--spend more than Ronald Reagan and his Star Wars initiative--oh wait, Obama is doing that.

Stupid policies, like proclaiming there has been a "stolen" election in Iran and yet ignoring what is happening in Honduras and Mexico--oh wait, that is Obama again.

Stupid policies like extraordinary rendition, infinite confinement of "enemy combatants" without a trial, and the covert survelliance of American citizens without warrants--oh wait, that's Obama again.

Shhhh.. don't tell jack that her and obama are on the same side of some issues. it ruins his rigorous masturbatory images... its like...he has sarah in his favorite Team RealTree camo underwear and this black guy comes in to ruin everything.

Winston · 07-05-2009, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Shhhh.. don't tell jack that her and obama are on the same side of some issues. it ruins his rigorous masturbatory images... its like...he has sarah in his favorite Team RealTree camo underwear and this black guy comes in to ruin everything.

On the environmental issues there are not two cents worth of differance. I can only take an optimistic view and hope that perhaps Palin would actually condemn mountaintop removal mining instead of continue to allow it's practice as Obama has done. Nor do I actually believe that Palin would allow the raping of our National Forest by the logging industry as it is apparant that Obama will do from his political appointments. But, I could be wrong.

On defense--again, not two cents worth of differance. Remember when Palin "goofed" and contradicted McCain on cross border raids into Pakistan? Obama has inflated our military budget and inflated the number of troops deployed abroad.

But, there is one huge differance between Obama and Palin. Obama is an insider, has been since BEFORE he even entered college, despite the little fantasy he tries to perpetuate. It is Palin that is the true "community activist".

Obama, he got out of college and a big fat pocketed dude gave him a car and a job--go into the projects and get me some political power. That is precisely what he did. He did not conduct those community activities in any philantrophic mood of helpfulness. He did it in an overt attempt at gaining political power and patronage. And, like a rabid wolf, he proceeded to garnish that power with lust and destroyed anything, or anyone, that got in his path.

Like Lincoln, also from Illinois, Obama was long ago a "chosen puppet", used to put a friendly face on the monster that is private equity, the real "leader" of our current political aristocracy. The same leader of King George, both the Bush and the Windsor variety. Nope, we may have won the battle that was the American Revolution, but we long ago lost the "war" and still find ourselves being taxed without being represented.

Palin, on the other hand, was a pissed off Mom that leveraged the power of her church and her community to make needed changes in the political apparatus of Alaska. No situation can better demonstrate the differance than the Wasilla Recreation Center. On one side, Palin--who initiated the purchase of the property and the tax that would fund it. On the other, the private equity owners that previously owned the property, and their continued litigation utilized to extract more revenue from the people.

Nope, when Karl Rove comes out against Palin I can't think of a BETTER endorsement. And when Colin Powell endorsed Obama, you know the Colin Powell that sits on the board of Revolution Health, well can you start to get the picture?

Dispatcher · 07-05-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

Sarah Palin is a shallow and superficial person, and her character a flimsy façade; she is all pro forma and no substance. She is appealing to people that are so simple as to be impressed by nothing more than appearances. (Indeed, the former beauty pageant contestant has come a long way on that small capital.) The Republicans would do better to find a person of substantial character, intellect and ability - one able to deal with the world’s leaders, and lead the greatest nation of the world. A hokey “hockey mom” is not such a person.

Give that man a cigar.

snjmom · 07-05-2009, 11:41 PM

Palin represents about 25% of the country. More of us beleive in UFO's than Palin's agenda. Strict adherence to political dogma without any semblence of compromise will doom the Rep to remain an opposition party and may drive the old school fiscal conservative, personal freedom conservatives to create a new party.

Which would be a smart move, since they would capture the Libertarians, conservative Dems and a lot of the Ind with some pragmatic stances on the issues.

Winston · 07-06-2009, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek

Sarah Palin single-handedly lost John McCain’s bid for the Presidency; and at the same time sounded the death knell for the Republican Party. (Indeed, she represents everything that is wrong with the radical right wing, which has driven true conservatives away.) Fortunately, the "real" leaders of the GOP have excluded her from any consideration; which, as events have shown, was a wise move. (The abandonment of her office of Governor of the State of Alaska was the final act of her political suicide.) She is dead - like the Wicked Witch in The Wizard of Oz, "she's not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead." There will be no "Phoenix rising from the ashes."

First off, I doubt you could even begin to touch the surface when it comes to what Palin "stands for". Her three biggest accomplishments, negotiating a windfall profits tax on the oil industry, cutting the state budget in the face of INCREASING REVENUES, attacking the cronyism within state spending. Which of those three things would you consider "wrong"?

Second, the election was won by the United Auto Workers and their advertising blitz proclaiming that McCain would cut Medicare and Medicaid and tax healthcare benefits. Obama is now cutting Medicare and Medicaid and planning on taxing healthcare benefits. Now who feels like a fool?

Winston · 07-06-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by snjmom

Palin represents about 25% of the country. More of us beleive in UFO's than Palin's agenda. Strict adherence to political dogma without any semblence of compromise will doom the Rep to remain an opposition party and may drive the old school fiscal conservative, personal freedom conservatives to create a new party.

Which would be a smart move, since they would capture the Libertarians, conservative Dems and a lot of the Ind with some pragmatic stances on the issues.

Could you please list the Palin agenda, with examples.

Thanks

Scrum · 07-06-2009, 11:19 AM

A paleolibertarian praising windfall taxes on oil companies? Perhaps you chose the wrong ideology.

Winston · 07-06-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Scrum

A paleolibertarian praising windfall taxes on oil companies? Perhaps you chose the wrong ideology.

Sorry, but Georgism was not a choice.

Everyone owns whatever they CREATE. But, everyone owns equally all that is found in nature. Land, natural resources, and the game itself--that is owned by the PEOPLE, and when utilized for private profit the people should be adequately compensated.

HughRuss · 07-06-2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Winston

Sorry, but Georgism was not a choice.

Everyone owns whatever they CREATE. But, everyone owns equally all that is found in nature. Land, natural resources, and the game itself--that is owned by the PEOPLE, and when utilized for private profit the people should be adequately compensated.

Sorry, there is no such thing as inherent ownership, whether it be of land, animals (for god's sake, what is the matter with you?!), or any natural resources. Humans are just as much an intricate part in nature as every other animal. In this way, there is no power structure, nor is there ownership.

The Great Catpiss · 07-06-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by HughRuss

Sorry, there is no such thing as inherent ownership, whether it be of land, animals (for god's sake, what is the matter with you?!), or any natural resources. Humans are just as much an intricate part in nature as every other animal. In this way, there is no power structure, nor is there ownership.

Ownership and power is very much a part of nature.

Donkey® · 07-06-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Catpiss

Ownership and power is very much a part of nature.

So is survival of the fittest. So I guess I should be able to take anyone's shit I want with force? I mean, nature made me larger than most people...therefore, I am supposed to use that advantage to destroy whomever I like.

HughRuss · 07-06-2009, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Catpiss

Ownership and power is very much a part of nature.

Can you find me a natural occurrence of what you call ownership?

Winston · 07-06-2009, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by HughRuss

Sorry, there is no such thing as inherent ownership, whether it be of land, animals (for god's sake, what is the matter with you?!), or any natural resources. Humans are just as much an intricate part in nature as every other animal. In this way, there is no power structure, nor is there ownership.

We do not own the land. We inherit it from our children, that is the viewpoint of the Native American. It is that viewpoint, working within the structure of a Constitution, that spawned this nation. It was only after several crucial components came together that we became an "ownership society", bowing down to the Almighty "invisible hand" of the free market.