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Old 10-16-2006, 07:07 PM   #1
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Democrats new theme v.Communist motto

It seems the Democrats have a new theme; the 'Common Good' is in full force. Are they finally acknowledging their socialist leanings?
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:21 PM   #2
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When the Republicans will admit their fascist leanings.
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:44 PM   #3
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They are burried in their Socialist Leanings. Republicans need more of their "Libertarian" leanings.

They don't have National Socialist Workers Party leanings. If they did they would promice jobs and housing for all Germans. That is how they got elected to power.
 
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yeah, because the common good is so bad. I mean.. why would you want things to be good.
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:28 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post
yeah, because the common good is so bad. I mean.. why would you want things to be good.
So you like communism?
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:28 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
When the Republicans will admit their fascist leanings.
When they begin to adopt fascist tendencies.
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
When they begin to adopt fascist tendencies.
So, 5 years ago?
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
So you like communism?
Communism like most political systems has some admirable traits to it. There's nothing wrong with wanting to promote a common good for the society you live in.
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:35 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Communism like most political systems has some admirable traits to it. There's nothing wrong with wanting to promote a common good for the society you live in.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to; it's dangerous to think you can.
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
So, 5 years ago?
Good one.

Except considering the recent claims that Republicans have turned their back on their religious base, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
 
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The "claims" aren't that they're unwilling to continue using religious based wedge issues for political gain, but rather that they're unwilling or incapable to follow through on any of those promises that are made.

That doesn't discount any of it though.. Like was said inthe other thread about American style fascism, the consolidation of power in the executive is a big first step. Republicans have been all too willing to head down that road.
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:53 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
That doesn't discount any of it though.. Like was said inthe other thread about American style fascism, the consolidation of power in the executive is a big first step. Republicans have been all too willing to head down that road.
Like I said in the same thread, one of the foremost critics of the US government, Noam Chomsky, even admits that the US is the farthest thing from a fascist regime you could have.
 
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So you believe Chomsky's opinions are a credible assessment of the US government?
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:57 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
So you believe Chomsky's opinions are a credible assessment of the US government?
Very rarely.
 
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Seems more like selective agreement whenever it happens to benefit the argument being made.

What else do you agree with him on?

I don't think we have a fascist Government, so in that respect, I agree with Chomsky. However, that doesn't mean that that there haven't been steps made torward that type of Government while the Republican party cheered.
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Seems more like selective agreement whenever it happens to benefit the argument being made.

What else do you agree with him on?
The sky is blue.

I don't think we have a fascist Government, so in that respect, I agree with Chomsky. However, that doesn't mean that that there haven't been steps made torward that type of Government while the Republican party cheered.
If you look hard enough (and in a very limited sense), I supposed you can find anything you want. Good thing our government is much more complex and involved than where you're looking.
 
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The consolidation of power in the executive has hardly been limited. Congress has essentially given up a large portion of it's authority to this President with resounding applause.

Our government is complex and involved, but that's a completely irrelevent point.
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Our government is complex and involved, but that's a completely irrelevent point.
Not when you're giving the government an overall assessment.
 
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post
yeah, because the common good is so bad. I mean.. why would you want things to be good.
When you use it as a excuse to enslave the individual to the State it is in fact very bad!
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Communism like most political systems has some admirable traits to it. There's nothing wrong with wanting to promote a common good for the society you live in.

I admire communism in a "feel good" way. I despise it in both a government and economic way.


There's nothing moral or right at all about forcing everyone to conform to the "common good."
 
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