Why is it ok for democrats to be racist? - Page 4

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

How are black folk's best interests different from mine?

He leaves out the part where democrats didn't nominate a single black for higher office in Maryland until AFTER Steele was on the ticket.

Thorgrim · 10-17-2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

What does him agreeing with Bush have anything to do with him being an Uncle Tom? We haven't had a black president in the history of the US. So are you saying that any black person agreeing with Bush on any issue is an Uncle Tom or are you saying any black person agreeing with Republicans on any issue is an Uncle Tom.

This is the mindset that has set back the black community and hurt them in politics. Democrats use them and have convinced so many people of their crap.

*sigh*

Again, saying he agrees with Bush

YouTube - The Straight Story On Michael Steele
best example

YouTube - Michael Steele: Anonymous Republican
good

YouTube - "The Real Steele"
good but long

Again, if I were to not only look at these ads, but examine his issues that 95%+ of blacks disagree with...how can he campaign as a politician for the black community?

How can I argue with a black man who calls him an Uncle Tom?

Thorgrim · 10-17-2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

What?!?!?!?

One of my best friends is a black guy that does very well, one of his most frustrating things he's encountered is how some of his friends and even some in his family said he was becoming an "uncle tom" simply because he studied his ass off in college and now has a good job. It's clearly racist and extremely frustrating for those that do a good job and are successful in their lives.

So if they called him a "nigger" for studying his ass off, that would be racist too?

His relatives calling him Uncle Tom is stupid, not racist

JaJae · 10-17-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Oh really?

Why is it the first black to be put on the governor ticket was done so by a republican candidate? This after democratic control of the state for over some 40 years? Now they are forced to because of Erlich picking Steele as his running mate. Ironing.

I fail to see how he is not a valid candidate even though he is black. It is pretty sad that you disqualify him based on his race.

I believe Bush has had more blacks in his administration that any president before him. And I don't recall any racist outbursts at black Democratic campaigns recently.

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

*sigh*

Again, saying he agrees with Bush

YouTube - The Straight Story On Michael Steele
best example

YouTube - Michael Steele: Anonymous Republican
good

YouTube - "The Real Steele"
good but long

Again, if I were to not only look at these ads, but examine his issues that 95%+ of blacks disagree with...how can he campaign as a politician for the black community?

How can I argue with a black man who calls him an Uncle Tom?

Where is this "95% of blacks" figure coming from?

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I believe Bush has had more blacks in his administration that any president before him. And I don't recall any racist outbursts at black Democratic campaigns recently.

Sad that a person who is black can't be a republican and earn their position.

JaJae · 10-17-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Where is this "95% of blacks" figure coming from?

Considering 15-20% of all blacks in America voted for Bush.... as stated by polls I would disagree with his 95%.

6SpeedTA95 · 10-17-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Now what would cause this? Are they threatened by his success? Do they think him working so hard makes the rest of them (or maybe the community) look bad?

His theory is that it makes them feel inferior but he doesn't know. He asked his dad about it and all his dad would say is "you're becoming like white people" which pissed him off

I know his parents I dont think they're necessarily racists and they were always incredibly nice to me. But its like when he started becoming successful their attitudes changed towards him.

Thorgrim · 10-17-2006, 04:38 PM

When Steele was defending Bush on Katrina, this is where the black community was...

President Bush's job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

A Polling Free-Fall Among Blacks

98% of Blacks didn't approve of Bush....98%! How the hell is that representing the black community...it isn't

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

His theory is that it makes them feel inferior but he doesn't know. He asked his dad about it and all his dad would say is "you're becoming like white people" which pissed him off

I know his parents I dont think they're necessarily racists and they were always incredibly nice to me. But its like when he started becoming successful their attitudes changed towards him.

That is pretty sad.

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

When Steele was defending Bush on Katrina, this is where the black community was...

President Bush's job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

A Polling Free-Fall Among Blacks

98% of Blacks didn't approve of Bush....98%! How the hell is that representing the black community...it isn't

I wouldn''t call asking 89 people if they approve of bush a scientific study

This latest poll included 807 people nationwide, and only 89 blacks. As a result, there is a considerable margin or error -- and the findings should not be considered definitive until or unless they are validated by other polls.

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:40 PM

The approval before Katrina was 51% for blacks.

DosEquis · 10-17-2006, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

How are black folk's best interests different from mine?

Being a seperate racial group from the majority they have issues to face that other races, particularly the one in majority, do not experience or see sometimes on a daily basis.

Sure they have core interests in common, such as good jobs, education, good home, family, etc. but they have additional things to deal with. Things the republican party typically does not address. There are a few black republicans, maybe 5% of them. The other 95% vote democrat for a reason, and it is because democrats are closer to representing them. The republican party is tied to the rich, big business, white, upper 1%. This perception comes from from things like instead of putting 2 billion into a program to encourage troubled youth to participate in athletic leagues or clubs and go to school, the republicans give 2 billion in subsidies to oil companies who already posted 30+ billion in profit. Troubled youth tend to be black. Thats not a rascist statement, it is fact. "Let the free market help poor people". Well there is no money to be made encouraging broke 15 year olds to play soccer and get good grades to stay on the team... so the free market isn't going to do it. When a democrat says we are going to put a program together to help encourage your kids to get good grades and play sports, it is more appealing to them than "we are giving 2 billion to Exxon". That is what is seen from the republicans and that is why they won't get black voters.

6SpeedTA95 · 10-17-2006, 04:44 PM

It dropped after Katrina due to the media and prominent members fo the black community like Jesse Jackson stealing the limelight. While guys like Cosby were ignored.

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Being a seperate racial group from the majority they have issues to face that other races, particularly the one in majority, do not experience or see sometimes on a daily basis.

Sure they have core interests in common, such as good jobs, education, good home, family, etc. but they have additional things to deal with. Things the republican party typically does not address. There are a few black republicans, maybe 5% of them. The other 95% vote democrat for a reason, and it is because democrats are closer to representing them. The republican party is tied to the rich, big business, white, upper 1%. This perception comes from from things like instead of putting 2 billion into a program to encourage troubled youth to participate in athletic leagues or clubs and go to school, the republicans give 2 billion in subsidies to oil companies who already posted 30+ billion in profit. Troubled youth tend to be black. Thats not a rascist statement, it is fact. "Let the free market help poor people". Well there is no money to be made encouraging broke 15 year olds to play soccer and get good grades to stay on the team... so the free market isn't going to do it. When a democrat says we are going to put a program together to help encourage your kids to get good grades and play sports, it is more appealing to them than "we are giving 2 billion to Exxon". That is what is seen from the republicans and that is why they won't get black voters.

So why have we seen no progress in democratic controlled inner cities with a majority black population?

and you kid yourself if you don't think democrats hand out favors as well.

Thorgrim · 10-17-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

It dropped after Katrina due to the media and prominent members fo the black community like Jesse Jackson stealing the limelight. While guys like Cosby were ignored.

It's funny, I bet you support Cosby's attack on the entire black community, the exact term of racism...but I bet you'd say Cosby wasn't being racist, however if Cosby had called one man an Uncle Tom, that'd be racism...

That's just straight up weird

hsmith · 10-17-2006, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's funny, I bet you support Cosby's attack on the entire black community, the exact term of racism...but I bet you'd say Cosby wasn't being racist, however if Cosby had called one man an Uncle Tom, that'd be racism...

That's just straight up weird

Tell me, what portions of what Cosby has said is racist.

JaJae · 10-17-2006, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Being a seperate racial group from the majority they have issues to face that other races, particularly the one in majority, do not experience or see sometimes on a daily basis.

Sure they have core interests in common, such as good jobs, education, good home, family, etc. but they have additional things to deal with. Things the republican party typically does not address. There are a few black republicans, maybe 5% of them. The other 95% vote democrat for a reason, and it is because democrats are closer to representing them. The republican party is tied to the rich, big business, white, upper 1%. This perception comes from from things like instead of putting 2 billion into a program to encourage troubled youth to participate in athletic leagues or clubs and go to school, the republicans give 2 billion in subsidies to oil companies who already posted 30+ billion in profit. Troubled youth tend to be black. Thats not a rascist statement, it is fact. "Let the free market help poor people". Well there is no money to be made encouraging broke 15 year olds to play soccer and get good grades to stay on the team... so the free market isn't going to do it. When a democrat says we are going to put a program together to help encourage your kids to get good grades and play sports, it is more appealing to them than "we are giving 2 billion to Exxon". That is what is seen from the republicans and that is why they won't get black voters.

But his vote will go to affirmative action and all that jazz. He's pro affirmative action. He's against NCLB, etc etc. As far as voting with the black's "issues" he's pretty much a straight roller.

Thorgrim · 10-17-2006, 04:52 PM

Let's look at the latest polling OUT OF MARYLAND, WHERE THIS RACE IS HAPPENING:

BUSH JOB APPROVAL, BLACKS:
8% Approval
SurveyUSA News Poll #10569

That's not just after Katrina, or some other BS

STEELE DOESN'T REPRESENT THE BLACK COMMUNITY, not even by a long shot, 88% distinctly disapprove of Bush, thats TODAY

Yet look at those videos I showed you, and theres much more, he is WAY out of the mainstream, yet he tries to claim to be a politician representing black voters...thats a scam

So why can't blacks call him Uncle Tom?

JaJae · 10-17-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Let's look at the latest polling OUT OF MARYLAND, WHERE THIS RACE IS HAPPENING:

BUSH JOB APPROVAL, BLACKS:
8% Approval
SurveyUSA News Poll #10569

That's not just after Katrina, or some other BS

STEELE DOESN'T REPRESENT THE BLACK COMMUNITY, not even by a long shot, 88% distinctly disapprove of Bush, thats TODAY

Yet look at those videos I showed you, and theres much more, he is WAY out of the mainstream, yet he tries to claim to be a politician representing black voters...thats a scam

So why can't blacks call him Uncle Tom?
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