Why is it ok for democrats to be racist?

[KatKanPlay]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Their interests involve what I have been describing. They do not care about the rich white upper 1% elite that george bush calls his base and that group is associated to republicans. They do not have an reason to elect people who are associated to the interests of this rich white upper 1% elite, because most are not rich white upper 1% elites. These billion dollar subsidies to oil companies do not help them.

Some of their interests include afterschool programs that no longer get funding. Athletic programs for schools that get by on minimal funding. Blue collar, good paying, manufacturing jobs that are disappearing. The increased interest rates on student loans to send their children to college. Healthcare coverage, etc.

Things that concern most middle class people, things republicans do not represent. Things that we do not have time to sit around and wait for trickle down.

ABSOFUCKINLUTELY!!

Steele nor this incident seems to be getting much cover here in So. Texas. And while I am spending way to damn much time reading through a bunch of bullshit to get to the good stuff. Just not hearing much so...

Is Steele himself a rich man? The pathetic list of supporters listed earlier in the thread are also rich or famous men. All are black, all have clawed their way to the top and "made something of themselves". All? at some point received help from the taxpayer I would just about bet money on it. The hypocrisy here is, they stand with the very party that wants to severely if not completely eliminate any taxpayer assistance at all. Why? The do not want to pay the damn taxes, its all about the economics for me and to hell with everyone else. They themselves in, strong black men power, hold even their own people back by supporting the agenda of the leadership base "those have and those who have more".

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[KatKanPlay]

Originally Posted by hsmith

So bush calls the "elite" the base of the republican party and it is suddenlty fact. Please.

Bush himself has said that...

Bush gazed around the diamond-studded $800-a-plate crowd and commented on the wealth on display.

"This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," quipped the GOP standard-bearer. "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base."

Bush And Gore Do New York - CBS News

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

if you think 99.9% of black people are great and equal, and 99.9% of white people are great and equal...yet one black politician is an "uncle tom"

that is not racism, you need more than one person to be a racist

im on the fence on the issue, whether or not I should call MS an Uncle Tom

holy shit

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

if you think 99.9% of black people are great and equal, and 99.9% of white people are great and equal...yet one black politician is an "uncle tom"

that is not racism, you need more than one person to be a racist

im on the fence on the issue, whether or not I should call MS an Uncle Tom

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by hsmith

How is starting from nothing, putting yourself through school, starting a family not a good way to represent the black community?

I would love to know.

because those aren't the values that so called "leaders" of the black community like. They want a group effort where everyone is poor and depressed, but at least they will be in a community of like-minded people

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

That is something a non-black person I don't think can ever do, but a black person...I think its murky

When did libertarians and conservatives become so PC? The fake outrage in this thread is so overpowering...

We're not PC. Call him a nigger. Call him Uncle Tom. All you want. Just admit it's racist. I don't care if it's racist - just fucking admit it. That's the problem.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I've been in bars in Philly and had black guys call Steele an "Uncle Tom" and I smiled and nodded to be polite

The term was being used to put him down because he is using a strategy that, while understandable in the 19th century, is unacceptable in the 21st as a way to represent the black community

I've heard white people in bars call blacks niggers. I guess it's not racist if used in bars. That's what you're saying.

[lew]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I am not reading all of the replies but i can tell you the shit against Steele is not racism. Lets call a spade a spade.. i mean he is an attempt to draw more black voters to the republican party, when they do not represent the black folks best interests. There are as many black republicans are there are black people on the swim team. Most dont like swimming and republicans are not going to represent most of their views.


i couldnt resist the "blatent rascism"

This makes me sad that you don't see the racism.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

*sigh*

Again, saying he agrees with Bush

YouTube - The Straight Story On Michael Steele
best example

YouTube - Michael Steele: Anonymous Republican
good

YouTube - "The Real Steele"
good but long



Again, if I were to not only look at these ads, but examine his issues that 95%+ of blacks disagree with...how can he campaign as a politician for the black community?

How can I argue with a black man who calls him an Uncle Tom?

WHY THE FUCK DOES HE EVEN NEED TO CAMPAIGN FOR THE "BLACK COMMUNITY?"


Why can't he campaign for Americans?

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

When Steele was defending Bush on Katrina, this is where the black community was...

President Bush's job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.


A Polling Free-Fall Among Blacks

98% of Blacks didn't approve of Bush....98%! How the hell is that representing the black community...it isn't

I don't feel bad for people that can't pay attention to the warnings and get the fuck out of a city under sea level during a very powerful hurricane.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's funny, I bet you support Cosby's attack on the entire black community, the exact term of racism...but I bet you'd say Cosby wasn't being racist, however if Cosby had called one man an Uncle Tom, that'd be racism...

That's just straight up weird

Because I remember Cosby calling people niggers and Uncle Toms.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

WHY THE FUCK DOES HE EVEN NEED TO CAMPAIGN FOR THE "BLACK COMMUNITY?"


Why can't he campaign for Americans?

because he chose to say he's campaining for the black community

[hsmith]

i find it amusing you can lump all blacks into one and say that one person does not pursue their interests

[Thorgrim]

I don't know where you went to school, but if you read the book Uncle Tom's Cabin, you'd realize that calling someone an Uncle Tom for his actions, and a white person just yelling "Nigger!" at at black man are completely different

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by hsmith

i find it amusing you can lump all blacks into one and say that one person does not pursue their interests

Well when 90-95% are for something...what it has be 100% before it can be related to the community...

When American agree 95% we should have a military, that doesn't reflect American interests because those 5% aren't counted?

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Well when 90-95% are for something...what it has be 100% before it can be related to the community...

When American agree 95% we should have a military, that doesn't reflect American interests because those 5% aren't counted?

it is funny cause i can see you justifying this to yourself

and please tell me how asking a whole 89 people is a conclusive study of black approval of bush.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by hsmith

it is funny cause i can see you justifying this to yourself

and please tell me how asking a whole 89 people is a conclusive study of black approval of bush.

It's more than one poll, I put up others, and there are more out there, I could put up 100 polls and you'd still go "haha I don't care I like calling you racist"

[lew]

Originally Posted by imind

it is not a racist term; it infers something including but beyond his race, as it is not every black person, but only those black people who are in service to whites.

if the issue were based only on race, then all blacks would be uncle toms, as racism is directed at the whole race and not a minority group within.

it is a definately a pejorative, derogatory term, but not a racist one.

I think there's a difference between niggers and regular black people.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

I think there's a difference between niggers and regular black people.

That's just being insensitive because the former term was used by white americans as they lynched hundreds of thousands of blacks, I don't think death is funny, and on that scale its revolting

For "common sense" people here, you guys sure don't show it, everyone knows the word "nigger" is seperate from basically every other term that has even slight racial connotations, because of the dark history in america of its usage

Example, on FX's "Rescue Me" they will use every racial slur in the book, being as they are "so politically incorrect" yet they never once had a white character say the word "nigger"

This is why this debate is going nowhere, people here so do not have any real reasons to back up the things they are saying, they just LOVE the idea of calling Democrats racists against blacks when 90% of the black vote goes to Democrats

Unless someone says anything of value, without scorn or troll-baiting, I don't think any real Democrat should participate in this thread

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by hsmith

i find it amusing you can lump all blacks into one and say that one person does not pursue their interests

you don't have much experience with the black community, it is all group think