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Old 10-17-2006, 04:00 PM   #1
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Nevadans to vote on legalizing marijuana

AP - Gambling, prostitution, and now pot? Organizers of a Nevada ballot measure hope voters in a state where almost everything goes will go one better and legalize marijuana.

If it passes Nov. 7, Nevada will be the first state to allow adults to possess up to an ounce of pot that they could buy at government-regulated marijuana shops.

The Committee to Regulate and Control Marijuana, which has pushed medical marijuana and decriminalization laws around the country, thinks Nevada — with its embrace of certain vices and its streak of Western independence — is a perfect venue.

In an editorial last spring, the rural Lahontan Valley News argued that gambling, Nevada's most powerful industry, caters to "visceral pleasures," and that it would hypocritical to oppose the legalization of marijuana on moral grounds.

Proponents of the measure also argue that the legal system wastes time and money on low-level marijuana offenses, and that taxing and regulating pot would put drug dealers out of business while freeing law enforcement to focus on violent crime and more dangerous drugs such as methamphetamine.

"Put it into a tightly controlled and regulated environment. We think that makes a lot of sense," Neal Levine, executive director of the committee.

Opponents, including law enforcement, the nation's drug czar, and civic and business groups, argue the measure would encourage the use of other drugs, and they question whether it will even prove to be a good source of tax revenue.

"The fact is, growing, distributing and warehousing marijuana will still be a federal offense," said Todd Raybuck, a Las Vegas police officer and spokesman for the Committee to Keep Nevada Respectable, which opposes the measure.

Question 7 allows people 21 and older to possess an ounce of marijuana in their homes — the same amount allowed under Nevada's medical marijuana law. Currently, possession of an ounce or less is a misdemeanor punishable by a $600 fine.

Twelve states have decriminalized small amounts of marijuana — that is, possession is punishable by a ticket and a fine — and 11 allow its use for medical purposes. Possession of up to an ounce at home is legal in Alaska under a court ruling there, but the case is under appeal.

Colorado residents will vote next month on whether to legalize possession of up to an ounce of marijuana by those 21 and older, similar to an ordinance Denver voters approved last year.

But the Nevada measure goes further. It directs Nevada's Department of Taxation to set up procedures to license and regulate marijuana growers, distributors and retailers. At the same time, it doubles penalties for selling or giving pot to minors and for vehicular manslaughter while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

The legislation also imposes a $45-per-ounce excise tax, with some of the proceeds going toward the budget and alcohol, tobacco and drug abuse programs. An ounce of pot on the street costs upwards of $300, depending on the quality.

A 2002 study by researchers at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas estimated taxing and regulating marijuana would generate $28.6 million in revenue.

The Justice Department in Washington did not respond to calls and e-mails seeking comment. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled people who smoke marijuana for medical reasons can be prosecuted under federal drug laws, and Raybuck said it is doubtful federal agents would tolerate commercial pot ventures in Nevada.

In 2002, Nevada voters overwhelmingly rejected a move to legalize up to three ounces of marijuana. The latest measure got onto the ballot after 86,000 people signed petitions.

A poll conducted in September for the Las Vegas Review-Journal found 51 percent of voters opposed Question 7, while 42 percent supported it and 7 percent were undecided.

The measure has found some surprising allies.

"Make no mistake, I don't think using marijuana is a wise choice for anyone," said the Rev. William C. Webb, a Baptist minister who joined dozens of other religious leaders in announcing their backing. But "if there has to be a market in marijuana, I'd rather it be regulated with sensible safeguards than run by violent gangs and dangerous drug dealers."

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On the Net:

Committee to Regulate & Control Marijuana: Home | Regulate Marijuana in Nevada

Committee to Keep Nevada Respectable: Nevada Says No - Home

National Drug Control Policy Office: Welcome to the Office of National Drug Control Policy - ONDCP

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Old 10-17-2006, 04:08 PM   #2
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"Make no mistake, I don't think using marijuana is a wise choice for anyone," said the Rev. William C. Webb, a Baptist minister who joined dozens of other religious leaders in announcing their backing. But "if there has to be a market in marijuana, I'd rather it be regulated with sensible safeguards than run by violent gangs and dangerous drug dealers."
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Is there actually anyone on this forum who thinks the government should be able to toss people in jail for use of marijuana?
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:10 PM   #4
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Vegas? Hell, why not...
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:11 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Is there actually anyone on this forum who thinks the government should be able to toss people in jail for use of marijuana?
As long as it's against the law then law enforcement has to do what they have to do
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:14 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
As long as it's against the law then law enforcement has to do what they have to do
I'm asking whether or not you support the law though.
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:52 PM   #7
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"The fact is, growing, distributing and warehousing marijuana will still be a federal offense," said Todd Raybuck, a Las Vegas police officer and spokesman for the Committee to Keep Nevada Respectable, which opposes the measure.
Great job buddy! Legalized prostitution and rampant gambling is something to respect.

But certainly a sensible marijuana program would earn my respect, the laws that prohibit this plant are archaic.
 
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The federal government won't allow this.
 
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:27 PM   #9
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Wow...Nevada is notoriously strict on drug charges because of all the other things they allow.

This would be big.
 
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
Wow...Nevada is notoriously strict on drug charges because of all the other things they allow.

This would be big.
Just last year in the city of Vegas, they stopped prosecution for under an ounce. They stopped citing from it. They used to be REALLY hard on it (I remember the bilboard on the 15 from LA to Vegas that talked about hard time for pot, they showed a similar one in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas). But recently they've let up.
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Is there actually anyone on this forum who thinks the government should be able to toss people in jail for use of marijuana?

Yes because it's illegal.
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Yes because it's illegal.
Well obviously it's illegal right now. I'm not questioning whether or not it's a law.

I'm asking whether or not you agree with it being a law that allows people to be thrown in jail or not.
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Well obviously it's illegal right now. I'm not questioning whether or not it's a law.

I'm asking whether or not you agree with it being a law that allows people to be thrown in jail or not.


I am torn. I have seen how fucking stupid it makes people and people are stupid to begin with. I would say a 21+ law would be sufficient for me.
 
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I don't see how the people of Nevada can condone gambling and hookers, but not a little pot. Under what system of twisted logic would pot be more harmful than gambling and hookers?
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Yes because it's illegal.
I'm curious of this line of logic. Not really related to the topic, but to any people who advocate actions because they are the law but conflict with their personal sense of justice or decision making, why do you feel this way? I've just always found silly and somewhat irresponsible to support anything because it is the law and not because I believed in it.
 
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Originally Posted by nbiggershaft View Post
I'm curious of this line of logic. Not really related to the topic, but to any people who advocate actions because they are the law but conflict with their personal sense of justice or decision making, why do you feel this way? I've just always found silly and somewhat irresponsible to support anything because it is the law and not because I believed in it.

He asked if I was ok with the government enforcing laws already on the books...of course I am.
 
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It should be legal and regulated. Much easiser to control associated problems (and remove some altogether).
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
He asked if I was ok with the government enforcing laws already on the books...of course I am.
not really they purpose of either his or my question
 
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Keep me posted,,, I think I might be moving to Nevada.
 
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
I'm asking whether or not you support the law though.
No, I am a responsible adult, I should be able to do what I want to do in my own home.
 
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