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Old 10-18-2006, 04:03 PM   #1
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Under federal law, homosexuals are the same as traitors and spies

Former Rep. Gerry Studds, the first openly gay member of Congress, was married to another man in Massachusetts at the time of his death, but the federal government will not pay death benefits to his spouse.
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Under federal law, pensions can be denied only to lawmakers' same-sex partners and people convicted of espionage or treason, Graves said.
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:08 PM   #2
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saw that on tv a little while ago... i had the same reaction

 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:11 PM   #3
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Really crappy IMO.

I can't wait until these idiotic laws are done away with like segregation was. They're outdated. People need to get over it and allow them to live their lives how they want to as long as they're not hurting anyone.
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:11 PM   #4
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WTF? We are so messed up as a country.
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:18 PM   #5
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The bill was passed by Congress by a vote of 85-14 in the Senate and a vote of 342-67 in the House of Representatives, and was signed by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.
Clintons fault!
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:24 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
Clintons fault!
Republican pressure forced him to do it!
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:26 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
Republican pressure forced him to do it!
The bill was passed by Congress by a vote of 85-14 in the Senate and a vote of 342-67 in the House of Representatives
It's everybody's fault.
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:27 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
It's everybody's fault.
I was being sarcastic
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:44 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
I was being sarcastic
So was I
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:02 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
Clintons fault!


Shows how idiotic that post is becoming. (unless of course it really was his fault)
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:02 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
Republican pressure forced him to do it!
Does that mean Democratic pressure if forcing Bush to sign all those bills?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:04 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post


Shows how idiotic that post is becoming. (unless of course it really was his fault)
When isn't it?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:04 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Does that mean Democratic pressure if forcing Bush to sign all those bills?
Maybe if the Democrats weren't the minority.
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:09 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
Maybe if the Democrats weren't the minority.
Democrats can still pressure
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:13 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Democrats can still pressure
With what? A threat of a filibuster?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:19 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
Maybe if the Democrats weren't the minority.
This argument is gonna be completely null and void when the Dems take control next month. It seems on this forum so many people are so willing to give the Dems a pass on everything, scandals, lies, morality, and the biggest of all.. the lack of blame for any issue that comes out of our government.

Next month can the conservatives blame everything on the Democrats and have a clean slate from any and all blame from the liberals?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:23 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
This argument is gonna be completely null and void when the Dems take control next month. It seems on this forum so many people are so willing to give the Dems a pass on everything, scandals, lies, morality, and the biggest of all.. the lack of blame for any issue that comes out of our government.

Next month can the conservatives blame everything on the Democrats and have a clean slate from any and all blame from the liberals?
When the Democrats have the House, Senate and 1600 Pennsylvania, absolutly. At the moment 99.9% of this crap falls at the Republicans feet.
If the Dems take back one or more houses then they will certainly share in the blame.

And *newsflash* you blame liberals now. Why would anyone think that would change?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 06:18 PM   #18
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So let me get this ... only lawmaker gay partners are denied?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 06:54 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
This argument is gonna be completely null and void when the Dems take control next month.

Will they please run on that? Then we would have an atleast one agenda item.

Having no problem with same sex couples myself I would ask why taxpayers should hand out pension benefits to same sex partners?
 
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:19 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Will they please run on that? Then we would have an atleast one agenda item.

Having no problem with same sex couples myself I would ask why taxpayers should hand out pension benefits to same sex partners?
Why should they hand out pension benefits to partners of the opposite sex?
 
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