Great Clinton Quote:

Phantom · 10-19-2006, 11:18 AM

"Americans hate politics because it seems irrelevant to them, and they feel like they're being manipulated because they're always being asked to make false choices. ... [T]he truth is, most of us don't think that way... [M]ost of us long for a politics where we have genuine arguments, vigorous disagreements, but we don't claim to have the whole truth and we don't demonize our opponents..."

I don't see this happening, but it's something to wish for.

kinggovernor · 10-19-2006, 12:10 PM

I agree but politicans can't say what they think because it will offend too many people

Publius · 10-19-2006, 12:14 PM

Clinton has a lot of good quotes. He had great speechwriters and great delivery.

Stylerod · 10-19-2006, 01:43 PM

I hate Republicans and everything they stand for. -
Howard Dean

If only the Democratic leader would live by that motto

DosEquis · 10-19-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

If only the Democratic leader would live by that motto

I think there is a significant disconnect between republicans and their supporters and democrats with theirs. A moderate 3rd party, with 200 million dollars to campaign, could take a good shot at the presidency. Another Ross Perot type would probably get 30% if they were a good speaker and had enough money to compete.

10-19-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I think there is a significant disconnect between republicans and their supporters and democrats with theirs. A moderate 3rd party, with 200 million dollars to campaign, could take a good shot at the presidency. Another Ross Perot type would probably get 30% if they were a good speaker and had enough money to compete.

I'd love to see a third party take 15 seats in the senate and/or 100 or so seats in the house. It'd be a real wake up call to the two parties we have in there now and maybe htey'd pull their heads out of their self rightous asses long enough to pay attention to us.

Stylerod · 10-19-2006, 02:30 PM

Term limits FTMFW!

KatKanPlay · 10-19-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I'd love to see a third party take 15 seats in the senate and/or 100 or so seats in the house. It'd be a real wake up call to the two parties we have in there now and maybe htey'd pull their heads out of their self rightous asses long enough to pay attention to us.

motivez · 10-19-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Term limits FTMFW!

Why should the people be prevented from re-electing someone they think is doing a good job?

Term limits are great for shitty or corrupt politicians, but being forced to get rid of good ones is really stupid IMO.. I can understand it for the Presidency, but for other offices?

Kytro · 10-19-2006, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

I agree but politicans can't say what they think because it will offend too many people

Which means that are mainpulating some people. Further they do is so much they begin the believe whatever they support and tend to automatically dismiss opposing viewpoints while uncritically accepting supporting ones.

They almost have to do this, and often it causes a disconnect from reality

RMNIXON · 10-19-2006, 05:49 PM

It is a great quote. So why didn't he direct this at his own party durring the 2004 election? Would have been some great advice!