Newsweek: Most Americans support impeachment, GOP numbers continue to crumble - Page 2

Diesel66 · 10-22-2006, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

It is not necessarily crimes I am talking about though. Incompetence. He has shown time and time again based on his decisions, acts and staffing hires that he is not capable of doing his job. Just because he is the President doesn't excuse him from being competent.

Impeachment isnt because you think the guy sucks, it is because he committed a crime.

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel66

Impeachment isnt because you think the guy sucks, it is because he committed a crime.

The position of President is still a JOB. If impeachment is the only way to get someone out of that position that has no business being there, then so be it.

Diesel66 · 10-22-2006, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

The position of President is still a JOB. If impeachment is the only way to get someone out of that position that has no business being there, then so be it.

Constitution is clear. Impeachment is for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." .

7960 · 10-22-2006, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You have to look at this in a different way. Is the bullshit that Bush has pulled during his presidency less or more of a reason to impeach him when compared to Clinton and his blowjob? Fuck the "omg he perjured himself" bullshit. Look at it for what it's worth...get Bush in front of a court and let's see if he perjures himself as well if you really need a "crime." If you don't see this war in Iraq as a crime when compared to lying about a blowjob, then you really need help.

1. he didn't get impeached for a blowjob

2. you say in this post that bush should be impeached for breaking the law, but

Originally Posted by Diesel66

except every actual crime/unconstitutional act he has done has been supported by Congress.

diesel says all the decisions were voted on and agreed to by congress, and then you admit

Originally Posted by Donkey®

It is not necessarily crimes I am talking about though. Incompetence. He has shown time and time again based on his decisions, acts and staffing hires that he is not capable of doing his job. Just because he is the President doesn't excuse him from being competent.

"well, he didn't break any laws, but I don't like the job he's doing."

KatKanPlay · 10-22-2006, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel66

except every actual crime/unconstitutional act he has done has been supported by Congress.

The question here is, was Congress mislead? If their werent so many bought and paid for legislatures, you would here a much greater out cry of deception coming from them. As it is they are jumping off the Bush bandwagon as fast as the party will let them.

Diesel66 · 10-22-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by KatKanPlay

The question here is, was Congress mislead?

So now the bumbling idiot can mislead Congress

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by 7960

1. he didn't get impeached for a blowjob

I CLEARLY stated why he got impeached. Thanks.

Originally Posted by 7960

2. you say in this post that bush should be impeached for breaking the law, but diesel says all the decisions were voted on and agreed to by congress, and then you admit "well, he didn't break any laws, but I don't like the job he's doing."

Of course I think he should be impeached for breaking the law...that doesn't mean that the facts are there to show that he HAS broken the law. Twisting of my words denied.

Originally Posted by 7960

Everyone else in the fucking universe can get fired for being incompetent. I don't think Bush's crimes are treason...they are incompetence. That being said...he doesn't have to go to jail, just lose his job. I am not saying it is possible...I am saying that is what should happen to this fool. Anything else you want to twist?

KatKanPlay · 10-22-2006, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel66

So now the bumbling idiot can mislead Congress

He not only can,,,,, he did.

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel66

So now the bumbling idiot can mislead Congress

They were all misled because of the incompetence of the whole administration. Bush made bad appointments. Those people made bad hiring decisions...so forth and so on. Eventually the buck stops at the top. If the CEO of a company fumbles and bumbles his way through his job and the company looks like shit and loses money, guess what? He resigns or is replaced.

7960 · 10-22-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I CLEARLY stated why he got impeached. Thanks

No, you clearly stated he got impeached for a blowjob and then tried to minimize that he actually got impeached for lying to congress.

Of course I think he should be impeached for breaking the law...that doesn't mean that the facts are there to show that he HAS broken the law. Twisting of my words denied.

You think he should be impeached for breaking a law even though you admit he didn't break a law?

I didn't need to twist those words

Everyone else in the fucking universe can get fired for being incompetent. I don't think Bush's crimes are treason...they are incompetence. That being said...he doesn't have to go to jail, just lose his job. I am not saying it is possible...I am saying that is what should happen to this fool. Anything else you want to twist?

I'm not twisting your words...you're not making any sense all by yourself.

Admit you want him fired because you don't like him and that this whole "he should be impeached" thing is bullshit and you're good to go. You can hope/wish/think he should be fired all you want. To say he should be impeached means he broke laws and you can prove it.... either do that or just tell us you think popularity should decide the president.

Diesel66 · 10-22-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

They were all misled because of the incompetence of the whole administration. Bush made bad appointments. Those people made bad hiring decisions...so forth and so on. Eventually the buck stops at the top. If the CEO of a company fumbles and bumbles his way through his job and the company looks like shit and loses money, guess what? He resigns or is replaced.

president is the top now ? Thought there were three ~equal branches.

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by 7960

No, you clearly stated he got impeached for a blowjob and then tried to minimize that he actually got impeached for lying to congress.

Wrong, per usual. I said he perjured himself. More than once.

Originally Posted by 7960

You think he should be impeached for breaking a law even though you admit he didn't break a law?

IF he has broken a law, he should be impeached. Not sure where the disconnect is here. Just because it hasn't been PROVEN he has broken a law yet doesn't mean he hasn't and it can't be proven. Get him in front of a grand jury or something I bet he perjures himself too.

Originally Posted by 7960

I didn't need to twist those words
I'm not twisting your words...you're not making any sense all by yourself.

You don't need to twist my words yet you continue to do so? I make perfect sense. My comments are pretty straightforward.

Originally Posted by 7960

Admit you want him fired because you don't like him and that this whole "he should be impeached" thing is bullshit and you're good to go. You can hope/wish/think he should be fired all you want. To say he should be impeached means he broke laws and you can prove it.... either do that or just tell us you think popularity should decide the president.

"I don't like him" is subjective. That's not what I have been saying at all...but keep trying. "HE IS INCOMPETENT AND PROVES IT DAILY" is what I have been saying and why I think he should lose his job...if impeachment is the only way to get a President out of office, fine, impeach his ass.

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel66

president is the top now ? Thought there were three ~equal branches.

I've already said two of the branches should be replaced. Congress will be replaced this coming election. When will the executive branch be replaced for incompetence? I don't see a problem with the Judicial Branch and I thank god they are there to keep this dumbass in check every single day.

7960 · 10-22-2006, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

IF he has broken a law, he should be impeached. Not sure where the disconnect is here. Just because it hasn't been PROVEN he has broken a law yet doesn't mean he hasn't and it can't be proven. Get him in front of a grand jury or something I bet he perjures himself too.

priceless........ "I'm not sure if he's broken a law so we should put him in front of a grand jury and see if he lies so we can say he perjured himself and then impeach him."

Brilliant!!!

You don't need to twist my words yet you continue to do so?

I'm not twisting your words. I'm repeating what you said.

"I don't like him" is subjective. That's not what I have been saying at all...but keep trying. "HE IS INCOMPETENT AND PROVES IT DAILY" is what I have been saying and why I think he should lose his job...if impeachment is the only way to get a President out of office, fine, impeach his ass.

Except that impeaching him requires him to have broken a law. What law has he broken?

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

priceless........ "I'm not sure if he's broken a law so we should put him in front of a grand jury and see if he lies so we can say he perjured himself and then impeach him."

IF. IF IF IF IF IF. You understand that word, correct? IF HE HAS BROKEN A LAW, PUT HIM IN FRONT OF A GRAND JURY AND LET'S SEE HIM PERJUR HIMSELF. Very simple. Must you be a tool in every fucking thread?

Originally Posted by tool

Brilliant!!!
I'm not twisting your words. I'm repeating what you said.
Except that impeaching him requires him to have broken a law. What law has he broken?

"high crime or misdemeanor." Explain to me what a "high crime" is? Straight out of the Constitution it pretty much means Congress can determine whatever they want as a "high crime."

7960 · 10-22-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

IF. IF IF IF IF IF. You understand that word, correct? IF HE HAS BROKEN A LAW, PUT HIM IN FRONT OF A GRAND JURY AND LET'S SEE HIM PERJUR HIMSELF. Very simple. Must you be a tool in every fucking thread?

I'm not being a tool, you're being a retard. You might as well be saying "If he was a woman I'd fuck him in the vagina" or "If he was a tree I'd chop him down and count his rings." Your posts are nonsense.

"IF HE HAS BROKEN A LAW....." I'm still waiting for you to tell me what law he's broken.

"high crime or misdemeanor." Explain to me what a "high crime" is?

High crimes and misdemeanours - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Straight out of the Constitution it pretty much means Congress can determine whatever they want as a "high crime."

No.

Donkey® · 10-22-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

I'm not being a tool, you're being a retard. You might as well be saying "If he was a woman I'd fuck him in the vagina" or "If he was a tree I'd chop him down and count his rings." Your posts are nonsense.

"IF HE HAS BROKEN A LAW....." I'm still waiting for you to tell me what law he's broken.

High crimes and misdemeanours - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No.

Way to fucking own yourself tool.

Originally Posted by your article

It is evident that in the absence of a clear legal definition, determining what rises to "high crimes and misdemeanors" is an inherently political process, which means that it is up to Congress and what it thinks constitutes an impeachable offense.