Flags of Our Fathers = good movie...

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

That Indian's name is Ira Hayes and :

JOHNNY CASH LYRICS

"The Ballad Of Ira Hayes"

Ira Hayes,
Ira Hayes

[CHORUS:]
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinkin' Indian
Nor the Marine that went to war

Gather round me people there's a story I would tell
About a brave young Indian you should remember well
From the land of the Pima Indian
A proud and noble band
Who farmed the Phoenix valley in Arizona land

Down the ditches for a thousand years
The water grew Ira's peoples' crops
'Till the white man stole the water rights
And the sparklin' water stopped

Now Ira's folks were hungry
And their land grew crops of weeds
When war came, Ira volunteered
And forgot the white man's greed

[CHORUS:]
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinkin' Indian
Nor the Marine that went to war

There they battled up Iwo Jima's hill,
Two hundred and fifty men
But only twenty-seven lived to walk back down again

And when the fight was over
And when Old Glory raised
Among the men who held it high
Was the Indian, Ira Hayes

[CHORUS:]
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinkin' Indian
Nor the Marine that went to war

Ira returned a hero
Celebrated through the land
He was wined and speeched and honored; Everybody shook his hand

But he was just a Pima Indian
No water, no crops, no chance
At home nobody cared what Ira'd done
And when did the Indians dance

[CHORUS:]
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinkin' Indian
Nor the Marine that went to war

Then Ira started drinkin' hard;
Jail was often his home
They'd let him raise the flag and lower it
like you'd throw a dog a bone!

He died drunk one mornin'
Alone in the land he fought to save
Two inches of water in a lonely ditch
Was a grave for Ira Hayes

[CHORUS:]
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinkin' Indian
Nor the Marine that went to war

Yeah, call him drunken Ira Hayes
But his land is just as dry
And his ghost is lyin' thirsty
In the ditch where Ira died

Art imitates life.

I believe that it's been a large gap in generations since we've been in a mass casualty war, and we've forgotten what loosing soldiers like that does. Like in the Civil war, which wiped out almost a whole generation of people. We don't understand that today like we should.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

Art imitates life.

I believe that it's been a large gap in generations since we've been in a mass casualty war, and we've forgotten what loosing soldiers like that does. Like in the Civil war, which wiped out almost a whole generation of people. We don't understand that today like we should.

I agree, which is precisely why we need to stand up to the N Korea's the Iraq's the Iran's and make sure they know the world will not be bulled and will not be backed into a corner like we have in the past.

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I agree, which is precisely why we need to stand up to the N Korea's the Iraq's the Iran's and make sure they know the world will not be bulled and will not be backed into a corner like we have in the past.

You might agree, but I think we have different ideas of how that gets carried out.

To me that means that we need to choose our battles wisely. And we need, as a country, remember the value of a dead soldier, and their value should equal what we as a country get in return.