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Old 07-30-2006, 02:02 PM   #81
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If you support Israel in any way, whether it be military service or monetary, you're a terrorist too and part of the problem. You are not a civilian and not a victim.
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:20 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
If you support Israel in any way, whether it be military service or monetary, you're a terrorist too and part of the problem. You are not a civilian and not a victim.
K, same for the Lebanese then.

After all, Israel is killing them before they become terrorists.
 
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Originally Posted by archangel003
K, same for the Lebanese then.

After all, Israel is killing them before they become terrorists.
All lebanese do not join Hezbollah...Hezbollah does not accept females into its military either
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:23 PM   #84
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All lebanese do not join Hezbollah...Hezbollah does not accept females into its military either
Can't have it both ways. Not all Israelis serve, either.
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:33 PM   #85
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Originally Posted by archangel003
K, same for the Lebanese then.

After all, Israel is killing them before they become terrorists.


Ok. Deal. Neither side may complain about civilians getting killed anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by archangel003
Can't have it both ways. Not all Israelis serve, either.
Uh, yeah they do
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:46 PM   #87
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Why should an Arab wait for an Israeli to attack him, why not kill him before he has a gun aimed at you?

It's the same logic we used to take out Saddam
when has Israel made threats against Arabs? They have the history of signing peace accords
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:48 PM   #88
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Originally Posted by Donkey®
If you support Israel in any way, whether it be military service or monetary, you're a terrorist too and part of the problem. You are not a civilian and not a victim.
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Old 07-30-2006, 05:09 PM   #89
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we can require them to serve in a drop of a hat, much like the reserve system
It'll never be used again unless we go to war with China or some other large nation.. but even then I have my doubts.
 
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor
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That's the same logic people have been using to justify the deaths of Lebanese civilians in other threads... exactly. If they give money to Hezbollah because they're using their schools, etc, they're a terrorist supporter and deserve to die.

It's funny how much more it sounds when the same logic is applied to the other side of the conflict though.
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:07 PM   #91
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Uh, yeah they do
No, they don't.

Like Quakers don't get drafted.
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:36 PM   #92
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It'll never be used again unless we go to war with China or some other large nation.. but even then I have my doubts.
why do you have you doubts, sooner or later the people that were a part of vietnam will not be a part of government
 
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Originally Posted by motivez
That's the same logic people have been using to justify the deaths of Lebanese civilians in other threads... exactly. If they give money to Hezbollah because they're using their schools, etc, they're a terrorist supporter and deserve to die.

It's funny how much more it sounds when the same logic is applied to the other side of the conflict though.
to me it all comes down to this:
1. can israel coexist with its neighbors? yes, they have signed treaties, given up land etc for peace
2. can the arab world coexist with israel? no, they continue to break agreements and refuse to agree to make a palestinan statehood.
 
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor
why do you have you doubts, sooner or later the people that were a part of vietnam will not be a part of government
Because it's a bad system that should only be used if required to actually defend the country from foreign attack. It'll never be used for another pointless incursion like Vietnam or even Iraq. The public wouldn't stand for it.
 
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor
when has Israel made threats against Arabs? They have the history of signing peace accords
Uh, their entire history?
 
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No, they don't.

Like Quakers don't get drafted.
Quakers aren't Israeli citizens, if you are just a regular jew who calls himself a pacifist, they give you an army job that doesn't involve killing but still feeds the Israeli war machine
 
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor
to me it all comes down to this:
1. can israel coexist with its neighbors? yes, they have signed treaties, given up land etc for peace
2. can the arab world coexist with israel? no, they continue to break agreements and refuse to agree to make a palestinan statehood.
What treaties has Jordan or Egypt broken lately? the ones calling this a horrible crime?
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:11 PM   #98
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Uh, their entire history?
maybe you are refering to 1967?
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:12 PM   #99
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Because it's a bad system that should only be used if required to actually defend the country from foreign attack. It'll never be used for another pointless incursion like Vietnam or even Iraq. The public wouldn't stand for it.
well that is for an entirely different thread
 
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:12 PM   #100
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What treaties has Jordan or Egypt broken lately? the ones calling this a horrible crime?
egypt has made amends with israel
 
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