Traficant: 'I'm going to run'

[Ron Burgundy]

Politico - Former Rep. Jim Traficant (D-Ohio) says he is ldquo;going to runrdquo; for Congress once again in 2010.

source: Politico - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31066.html [link]

[CuriousMoon]

Why does the media peg names to the world when they seem to be amidst many other names that are just as important. Like all the other people who have decided to run for office in 2010. Not a mention of them.

[Mosheh Thezion]

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon

Why does the media peg names to the world when they seem to be amidst many other names that are just as important. Like all the other people who have decided to run for office in 2010. Not a mention of them.

Because of this........

------------------- (After saying this he went to jail)


The Bankruptcy of The United States
United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:
"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.
It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’
Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.
It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?
Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.
Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.
There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.
Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.
The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]
The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.
Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.
Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)
"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.
In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.
Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.
This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.
Why don’t more people own their properties outright?
Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?
We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.
America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."


Image: United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303 Last Modified March 5, 2001


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That is why he has earned alot of peoples respect.

[CuriousMoon]

interesting

but notice the lack of reference to why it's important or significant that he is running in 2010. I hope he does well.

[Mosheh Thezion]

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon

interesting

but notice the lack of reference to why it's important or significant that he is running in 2010. I hope he does well.

its signifigant....

because he was convicted for fraud.... and while many say he was set up.... many say he was guilty and cant be trusted again...

but... he wont make the same mistakes twice... one can hope.

and more importantly...


he stands a becan of powerful arguments to fix our nation, which makes him a figure head in the tea party, and liberty movements.....

his speach, is widely circulated, and most rebel types have read it.

but.... he said.. he will only run for the congress.... when in fact he should run for president.

-Mosheh Thezion

[CuriousMoon]

just because someone writes a compelling piece of literature, doesn't mean they should run for office. I don't think so anyways.

He does have some very good points. but, the establishment is thick, thick, thick.

I wish him well and want to see more literature from him, or was this a one hit wonder.

[Mosheh Thezion]

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon

just because someone writes a compelling piece of literature, doesn't mean they should run for office. I don't think so anyways.

He does have some very good points. but, the establishment is thick, thick, thick.

I wish him well and want to see more literature from him, or was this a one hit wonder.

The point is... he dared to say it.

And what we need, is for our politicians to have those kinds of balls.

[CuriousMoon]

We do have a few good politicians.

but, Washington D.C. is so rife with corruption, eve State's own legislatures are impacted by corporate or special interest buying of legislation or of judgements handed down in curcuit, appeals, and supreme courts.

All the player are stacked. Most have a conflict of interest. A piece of paper giving permission for the fox to watch the hen house.

your solutions Mosheh are that you are some how "special" and will make change upon the fairland of America, when others who have gone before you have failed. Please.....

until the tray is emptied, it's time to stop trying to write with bad pencils, no matter how sharp they say they are.

[Mosheh Thezion]

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon

We do have a few good politicians.

but, Washington D.C. is so rife with corruption, eve State's own legislatures are impacted by corporate or special interest buying of legislation or of judgements handed down in curcuit, appeals, and supreme courts.

All the player are stacked. Most have a conflict of interest. A piece of paper giving permission for the fox to watch the hen house.

your solutions Mosheh are that you are some how "special" and will make change upon the fairland of America, when others who have gone before you have failed. Please.....

until the tray is emptied, it's time to stop trying to write with bad pencils, no matter how sharp they say they are.

I'm not special?

Your hurting my feelings.

If I am special... it is only because I have the balls to say it like it is.

I would take corporate money... but not for promises.
I would take pac money... but not for promises.
I will take your money.. but I only promise to stand on my platform.

My platform.. which can solve the huge underlying issues which are strangling our nation and world..... which is debt.

You can laugh at me..
You can insult me....

But I challenge you to debate me.

PERIOD.

Most of the wanna be intelectuals here.. on this site.. I repeat... Wanna be.... have set me on ignore... and thats fine.

As it shows they cannot debate... and have given up.

I offer a solution.

Debate if you can... otherwise, sir.. you should help me.

-Mosheh Thezion

[CuriousMoon]

hurting your feelings?

you are aware that there is corruption in the U.S. government, aren't you?

If so, you believe that casting a ballot will solve the corruption?

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon

hurting your feelings?

you are aware that there is corruption in the U.S. government, aren't you?

If so, you believe that casting a ballot will solve the corruption?

Don't even bother. Any attempt to actually debate this man will result in you systematically destroying any and all of his arguments with facts, knowledge, and logic. That will then be followed by his proclaiming the facts you presented are not true, that we've only been led to believe those facts as slaves, that he automatically "wins" based on his mind being "set free" because he has secret knowledge the rest of us do not; and then he will proclaim you are a wimp, less than a man, afraid, or a host of random other senseless shit, when you finally realize that you are talking to someone whose reality is la-la land, and walk away like a normal human being who realizes that they have better things to do with their time.

[Mosheh Thezion]

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman

Don't even bother. Any attempt to actually debate this man will result in you systematically destroying any and all of his arguments with facts, knowledge, and logic. That will then be followed by his proclaiming the facts you presented are not true, that we've only been led to believe those facts as slaves, that he automatically "wins" based on his mind being "set free" because he has secret knowledge the rest of us do not; and then he will proclaim you are a wimp, less than a man, afraid, or a host of random other senseless shit, when you finally realize that you are talking to someone whose reality is la-la land, and walk away like a normal human being who realizes that they have better things to do with their time.

anyone can read this forum... and see that it was you... you... who walked away, once you hit a brick wall that you could not argue down.

You won nothing, and your only way to save face, was to walk away, like a child, claim victory, and place me on ignore, so that you dont actually have to defend your statements.

It is sad, and the entire world can read it clearly on this website.

-Mosheh Thezion

[Mosheh Thezion]

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon

hurting your feelings?

you are aware that there is corruption in the U.S. government, aren't you?

If so, you believe that casting a ballot will solve the corruption?

Yes there is great corruption... but the only way to fix it, is by electing those who will honestly try and do so.

By restoring the Constitution, and amending it, to reform political campaign financing, and placing clear limits on the access of lobbyists, etc...

If I was ever elected to the Senate, I would be one voice, and how I would vote is very clear... I do not make vague generalities to win you over.. I tell it as I see it, and sure.. I may lose for it.. but I will not lie, or take positions without clarity on what I mean and intend to stand for, and do.

The problem in our nation... is coruption.. has been legalized by mechanisms, and simple means... but rairly bribes...

it used to be bribes... nowadays, its gifts, and donations, sex, and promises for jobs, and special treatment in endless ways....

Coruption by any name... still stinks.

I am not special... no sir.. but I will not be corupted by money, or special gifts or promises... so hey... maybe im nuts... but I actually care more about the Constitution and all of our freedom, than I do about personally getting rich.


-Mosheh Thezion

[asd123]

According to the locals, during the winter months there, the beaches are pretty much deserted. It takes about 2 to 3 hours driving to get there,.......who's game?
















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