Murtha goin down?

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

His corruptness helped provide you (military) a lot of benefit during his years. But I am sure you don't care about that (as you use your benefits.)

Are you saying ends justify the means here?

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by JaJae

He was far more corrupt than the majority. He was one of the most corrupt members of Congress.

Fact. Even the left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington annointed him as such.

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Apparently, the infection Murtha died from was caused by a surgical mistake when doctors mistakenly cut his intestine during surgery.

I smell a lawsuit!

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

His corruptness helped provide you (military) a lot of benefit during his years. But I am sure you don't care about that (as you use your benefits.)

and?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

and?

And you should support corruption of our government if you are part of the minority that benefits... Duh!

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman

Are you saying ends justify the means here?

I didn't see anyone turning down the results of the Murtha efforts in protest of his corruptness.

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I didn't see anyone turning down the results of the Murtha efforts in protest of his corruptness.

You didn't answer the question and instead tried to deflect my question with a distraction as if I was some sort of dog that could be bought off with a new toy. People who didn't turn down the benefits of Murtha's "efforts" weren't the subject or focus of my question, nor is the implication that those people may justify the means for the ends because it benefits them.

I asked whether you were promoting an "ends justify the means" position considering you framed your response to King in a way that made it seem as though you thought Murtha's corruption was okay because it had just ends as you saw them.

I was asking for your clarification on the matter. So I will ask again, clarifying my question: In your opinion, do the ends justify the means so long as the ends correspond to values and issues you find to be paramount in importance?

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman

You didn't answer the question and instead tried to deflect my question with a distraction as if I was some sort of dog that could be bought off with a new toy. People who didn't turn down the benefits of Murtha's "efforts" weren't the subject or focus of my question, nor is the implication that those people may justify the means for the ends because it benefits them.

I asked whether you were promoting an "ends justify the means" position considering you framed your response to King in a way that made it seem as though you thought Murtha's corruption was okay because it had just ends as you saw them.

I was asking for your clarification on the matter. So I will ask again, clarifying my question: In your opinion, do the ends justify the means so long as the ends correspond to values and issues you find to be paramount in importance?

In my opinion, as stated above, Murtha was no more corrupt than MANY in Washington. He played the game that they all try to play and played it well. If he was Republican, he wouldn't be hated on so much...but alas, the combination of the D by his name and this forum is a deadly combination. If I recall correctly, McCain had some ties to the Arab Abscam shit but King adores that simple old man.

If King had issues with how Murtha acted...instead of reaping all the benefits Murtha had a part in as a staunch advocate of the military...King could have simply not accepted anything in that arena as a valid way to protest...instead of calling people names. He's a verbal rebel. He'll talk all sorts of shit about people then ignore it when he accepts the benefit given to him by said people. Must be nice to be that much of a rebel.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

In my opinion, as stated above, Murtha was no more corrupt than MANY in Washington. He played the game that they all try to play and played it well. If he was Republican, he wouldn't be hated on so much

Stopped reading there, that is just not true and has been shown already in this thread.

The hater excuse is so worn out and tired, it is kinda sad.

[kinggovernor]

murtha was buried in johnstown, excellent news

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

murtha was buried in johnstown, excellent news

I know the dude was kind of a creep in a lot of ways, but uh....isn't that kinda cold, King?

[Dispatcher]

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman

I know the dude was kind of a creep in a lot of ways, but uh....isn't that kinda cold, King?

A rather conservative friend of mine said the same thing as King.
And some people say conservatives have no compassion. Where do they get these ideas?

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by Dispatcher

A rather conservative friend of mine said the same thing as King.
And some people say conservatives have no compassion. Where do they get these ideas?

Haha, no idea. Then again, what conservatives lack in compassion liberals surely over-compensate for, so much so that they think everything should be free and easy for everyone (esp. groups that traditionally votes Democratic every year).

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman

I know the dude was kind of a creep in a lot of ways, but uh....isn't that kinda cold, King?

not nearly as cold as his treatment of the Marines he slandered