I saw this interesting article from people at the University of Virginia's Center for Politics regarding the voting trends and belief systems of the Dems/minorities and the GOP/whites. I thought it was interesting and wanted to share, but am going to reserve my comments for later. Demographic Change and the ...
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| Future of the GOP I saw this interesting article from people at the University of Virginia's Center for Politics regarding the voting trends and belief systems of the Dems/minorities and the GOP/whites. I thought it was interesting and wanted to share, but am going to reserve my comments for later. Demographic Change and the Future of the Republican Party | ||||
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| Race? Maybe...but my concern for the present is holding the GOP true to their word once in office. The race issue isn't as important to me as "What's happening now!" The interesting thing about the GOP is their new found fiscal conservatism. Once in office, will they just revert back to their spending ways? Isn't that what all politicians do, left and right? The GOP in office need to be held accountable for their choices. Scott Brown gets elected in a Democrat majority state as he is viewed as someone who would represent the new fiscal conservatism yet his first chance to prove he's a true conservative, he votes for the jobs bill (more government spending) along with the Democrats. That's just a sign of what is to come for the GOP, IMO..., sans Rand Paul and Peter Schiff should they be elected to the Senate.
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| Rand Paul is a regular republican trying to run off his daddy's reputation. | ||||
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| Here's why it doesn't matter if they have a future or not. Originally Posted by article
Originally Posted by article
The GOP's Dirty War : Rolling Stone Whether they gain control of government again or not...doesn't matter. They're obstructionists and have absolutely ZERO ideas to fix anything. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® Some voters would be content with the government not screwing anything else up Donkey. Obstructionist is looking pretty good to me at the moment, as I am sure it is to many others. I've voted in one primary in my life, but if a presidential candidate came out and said they would veto everything that came through and do absolutely nothing else, I'd go vote for him.
However, in truth the republicans do take action while they are in office, which is in large part why Obama has so many problems to "fix". | ||||
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® Yeah, because a partisan hack with a short-term agenda is really more credible than political scientists from a reputable institution for political analysis.
Nice comeback. | ||||
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| Yeah, and it seems like everytime they "fix" something they just screw it up more, thus giving themselves more things to fix. I don't know about you, but I just love how that works. | ||||
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| You really are incapable of ever having a prolonged intellectual conversation, aren't you? I didn't say Democrats were partisan hacks, did I? I said the author of your hit piece was a partisan hack. Assuming your needless remark/deflection is entirely true (which it isn't), what exactly does it have to do with an objective analysis by reputable political scientists studying voter trends and potential future trends of a political party? (Here's a hint: Any answer you provide that is longer than "Nothing" is wrong.) All of that aside, the University of Virginia Political Science Dept. likely (and by "likely" I mean "undoubtedly") has much better objective analysis (on just about anything relating to politics) than does Rolling Stone regarding the political parties and their core constituencies, both of the present and possible future. But then again I suppose this little examination of "sources" shows why our worldviews are worlds apart. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman
First, I was using YOUR approach to judge people as "political hacks". And it's also great that colleges are liberal havens until they write something you agree with then they are not partisan at all. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® 1. What exactly was "my" approach, other than to (1) cite a scholarly article by trained political scientists that seems to conclude the Republican Party is in trouble regarding its electoral future because (a) its core beliefs regarding government are seemingly less popular with the demographic groups seeing increases in their populations within the United States, and (b) whites, the GOP's core constituency, are increasingly becoming the minority; and (2) rebuke a nonscholarly hit-job by an opinion mag known for "hating" everything remotely right-of-center?
For someone who is always decrying the "haters" in our midst you sure seem to turn to them whenever they back your pov. Personally, I think your excuse that it was "my" approach you were supposedly mimicking is BS; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know RS is a highly biased and partisan platform. I'd have had the same reaction if you linked to a NRO column decrying the Virginia piece as manufactured and shortsighted because the NRO is (you guessed it!) a partisan platform for partisan hacks. For you to try and play it off otherwise is beyond disingenuous. 2. I never said anything in this thread about the academy and its politics one way or the other. Hell, all you need to do is look at my profile to see I'd like work in the academy someday. Hence, if I thought the place was such a shit hole of junk-thought it'd likely be the last place I'd want to work. Indeed, the only problem with the alleged liberal bias of the university is that it manifests itself not in research, but in suppressing dissenting points of view and possibly denying those dissenters tenure. Furthermore, for all I know this particular study they put out could be slanted toward the Left, but I don't think you have to be a liberal or conservative to see the merits in what it is saying. 3. Lastly, I never said I agreed or disagreed with the merits of the piece. I simply said I thought it was interesting. The Virginia piece's conclusion that "Republican leaders will soon face a difficult choice between reaching out to nonwhite voters or continuing to cater to their Party’s shrinking base" is a serious issue that reaches well beyond your needless and shortsighted spewing (to paraphrase) of "Their future doesn't matter because Republicans are obstructionists and suck!" Besides, I am quite sure you had no problems when it was the Democrats who were obstructionists back during the days of the Bush administration when it came to things like judicial nominations, Bolten's nomination to the UN, etc. To act like the GOP has discovered out of thin air some new tool to make the majority's governing term as miserable as possible is laughable. Any honest thought on the subject on your part would lead you to conclude this is just a new chapter in the GOP building on what the Dems to did them while the GOP was the majority, which in turn was built on what the GOP did to the Dems the last time the Dems were in the majority, etc, on and on, Republic without end. It's literally nothing new and has been a staple of American politics since the Adams administration. Honestly Donkey, to act so outraged because it's happening to your fearless leader now is, as you like to say, "faux rage." | ||||
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| Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman
Where am I "outraged?" I laugh at it. It's pathetic. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman Though RS may be biased, what part of the articles is untrue?
I read nothing that set off my BS alarm.
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