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Old 10-30-2006, 12:06 AM   #1
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Bush Guts Posse Comitatus, Grabs National Guard..

I thought this was worth reposting because it seems it has gotten no discussion in the media. I've heard nothing about it, and I'm interested especially in what some of our conservatives and libertarian's think about this.

Daily Kos: HUGE! Bush Guts Posse Comitatus, Grabs National Guard! [ACTION UPDATE]


If I told you that Congress was considering passing a law that gives the President -- this President -- the power, in the event of any "disaster, accident, or catastrophe" that he deems to require it, to:

- involuntarily take National Guard troops from State A and
- require them to work in State B for up to a year,
- in law enforcement rather than just traditional areas like disaster relief,
- over the objection of both state's governors
would you believe it? Probably not. And you'd be right. Congress is not considering such a bill.

IT ALREADY PASSED SUCH A BILL THREE WEEKS AGO!


It's important that we understand what the Bush Administration has done here, because they've done it in a sneaky, underhanded, and almost invisible way.

We need to start with some basic concepts. I am indebted to two diaries by Cedwyn (here and here) and a previous diary by Rusty1776, as well as sources such as Sen. Patrick Leahy, whom I quote in my previous diary on this subject, and to a great blog post by Sarah R. Carter on her father's Senate campaign website.


The National Guard:

First, and most basically, because it confuses some people: each state (and territory, and D.C., but we'll ignore those for this discussion) has its own "National Guard." As with the concept of "federalism," which refers to the power that the states retain despite the existence of a federal government, this name can be misleading. The National Guard belongs to the states, not to the Federal Government, except with the governor's agreement or under certain specified conditions. The National Guard is the Governor's muscle.

The Posse Comitatus Act
:
"Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
What that means is that the federal government can't use federal troops -- or federalized state troops (which is what this outrage is about) -- as a national law enforcement posse to enforce the law, except under certain exceptions. You probably already know the term for putting an area under military law enforcement control: it's called "martial law." Now, a Governor can declare martial law in an emergency under terms that vary by state. You saw an example of that when Gov. Blanco declared martial law in parts of Louisiana during Hurricane Katrina. But a President can only federalize troops for such use under exceptions specified by law. Where do you find those?

The Insurrection Act
:

You find them in the Insurrection Act. This was invoked, for example, in Arkansas in the 1950s when President Eisenhower controversially nationalized the Arkansas National Guard over the objections of that state's Governor and directed them to enforce the law ending mandatory school segregation. He argued that the state's refusal to follow the federal law constituted an insurrection against the federal government.

Well, OK, you might say, I can see giving the power to nationalize a state's National Guard in that situation, even if the governor objects. They were defying federal law. That's not such a bad exception.

Right. But guess what just got amended? This small exception is now a gaping hole.

Here's what happened.

You can see my previous diary for Sen. Patrick Leahy's September 19 statement on what the legislation then before Congress would do. The Fiscal Year 2007 Defense Authorization Bill was envisioned as a bill that would strengthen the National Guard. With a sick sense of irony, the Bush Administration gutted this provision and replaced it with a "body snatcher" provision that represented "a sizable step toward weakening states' authority over their Guard units." The provision "mak[es] it easier for the President to declare martial law, stripping state governors of part of their authority over state National Guard units in domestic emergencies."

Here's an explanation for what this law does; the citation for which I'm omitting:
When the President invokes section 333 of chapter 15, he may involuntarily call to active duty members of the reserve components (not more than 200,000 Select Reserve and Individual Ready Reserve, of whom not more than 30,000 may be Individual Ready Reserve) for up to 365 days to conduct law enforcement activities in a disaster, accident, or catastrophe area and, if such incident involves a terrorist or WMD threat or attack, other response activities. In addition, the President may involuntarily call to active duty members of the reserve components to provide supplies, services, and equipment to persons affected by the disaster, accident, or catastrophe. As soon as practicable after invoking section 333 of chapter 15, the President must notify Congress of his determination to exercise this authority. However, within 24 hours of involuntarily calling to active duty members of the reserve components, the President must submit to Congress a report, in writing, setting forth the circumstances necessitating this action and describing the anticipated use of these members.
Alberto Gonzales could drive a tank through the vague language you see up there.

They did this in a very subtle way. It's hard to notice unless you're looking for it.
* Section 522 (House section 511) extends from 270 days to 365 days
the period for which the Selected Reserve and Individual Ready Reserve may be involuntarily called to active duty. * Section 1076 (Senate section 1042):
o Amends the "Insurrection Act" (i.e., Chapter 15 of title 10, U.S. Code) by:
§ Changing the title of chapter 15 of title 10, U.S. Code) from "Insurrection" to "Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order";
§ Changing the title of section 333 of chapter 15 from "Interference with State and Federal Law" to "Major Public Emergencies; Interference with State and Federal Law";
§ Clarifying the President's authority, under section 33 of chapter 15, to use the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, without a request from a State governor, to restore order and enforce Federal laws in cases where, as a result of a terrorist attack, epidemic, or natural disaster, public order has broken down; and
§ Including those who are obstructing the laws to the existing requirement for the President to issue a proclamation ordering insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time.
o Amends Chapter 152 of title 10, U.S. Code, to authorize, with certain limitations, the President, in any situation he determines to exercise the authority provided in section 333 of chapter 15, to direct the Secretary of Defense to provide supplies, services, and equipment (e.g., food, water, utilities, transportation, search and rescue, medical care, and other assistance necessary to save lives and property) to persons affected by the incident.
o Amends section 12304 of title 10, U.S. Code, eliminating the limitation imposed on the President's authority to involuntarily call to active duty members of the reserve components to perform law enforcement and other duties in response to serious natural or man-made disasters, accidents, or catastrophes to only those incidents involving terrorist or weapons of mass destruction threats or attacks.
So now the President can send troops from Tennessee to quash what he deems a threat to civil order in Oregon, even if the governors of Tennessee and Oregon both object.

This, by the way, is how the Chinese - whose approach to government and party building Bush seems so much to admire - broke up the protests in Tienanmen Square. They brought in troops from the provinces who knew nothing about what the protest was about, but knew that if they were ordered to shoot, they had to shoot.

Such small changes to the law. Such a huge result. Imposition of federal martial law, using state troops, over the objection of the states.
So, this seems like it'd be a pretty big deal, especially for people who believe in states rights. I'm guessing the fact that it was apparently done with great stealth is the reason it's gotten such little press.

I'm also guessing that most of America wont really care, especially since it probably makes sense for them that the "guy in charge" should be able to send enough troops to deal with a disaster in another state if that state doesn't have enough.

What they probably wont consider is that the President is now capable of determining for himself what defines 'disaster', kind of like he now defines what the geneva conventions mean, what torture is, and which American citizens are enemy combatants.

This is scary to me because it begs the question.. why consolidate all of this power in the executive if you don't plan to use it?

Illegal spying on American citizens, being able to declare American citizens enemy combatants, being able to deny American citizens their due process rights, constitutional protections, being allowed to torture, interpret the language of treaty obligations, signing statements nullifying the power of Congressional intent suspension of habeus corpus, and now a major move toward martial law.

Honestly, if someone told you 10 years ago that the President would be doing all of this, and capable of doing it all.. while Congress cheered on, and the American public yawned, would you have believed them? Or said they were crazy?
 
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:55 AM   #2
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The part about the posse comitatus act are off base since they President can use federal troops if Congress approves. And congress did approve in June when they passed the insurrection act.


The Posse Comitatus Act has traditionally been viewed as a major barrier to the use of U.S. military forces in planning for homeland defense.[1] In fact, many in uniform believe that the act precludes the use of U.S. military assets in domestic security operations in any but the most extraordinary situations. As is often the case, reality bears little resemblance to the myth for homeland defense planners. Through a gradual erosion of the act’s prohibitions over the past 20 years, posse comitatus today is more of a procedural formality than an actual impediment to the use of U.S. military forces in homeland defense.
All it takes is a quick yes vote from Congress and there is no protection.






Honestly, if someone told you 10 years ago that the President would be doing all of this, and capable of doing it all.. while Congress cheered on, and the American public yawned, would you have believed them? Or said they were crazy?
10 years ago was after WACO, so it wouldnt have been a big surprise.
 
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:38 AM   #3
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The president's theory was well tested during Hurricane Katrina when we took control of the infected areas with Marshall law.
 
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:47 PM   #4
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I think this is in response to Katrina where the governor wouldn't allow help and then blamed the president and federal government for it. As long as the administration gets blame for mistakes at the state level they will always play the game to cover their butt.

If another Katrina happens and the governor refuses help the president can now override it and possibly help keep order by having an immediate response and not leaving the people feeling abandoned and helpless.

I don't agree with this bill, but I think I can see where it came from.
 
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:56 PM   #5
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I can see some parts of it too but it now leaves the door open to call in the military as the federal government sees fit which prevents the individual states from being covered in a time of crisis or emergency.
 
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:58 PM   #6
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Anytime the government uses the words "This will make it easier to..." everyone should flinch.

It's hard for them to do some things for a reason.
 
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:06 PM   #7
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you can't blame bush for katrina and this at the same time
 
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Old 10-31-2006, 12:15 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
you can't blame bush for katrina and this at the same time
So it's either no responsibility or total control? There is a middle ground here.
 
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:47 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
So it's either no responsibility or total control? There is a middle ground here.
well a lot of the outrage is Bush didnt send in the military right away. But he couldnt under the old plan because the gov had to activate them and had full control over them.
 
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