Originally Posted by JaJae Why is it that every time a Democrat is caught in a scandal somehow Bush gets insulted and the focus is shifted from the issue? I dunno, how is it that when the issue your average voter is focused in on is Iraq, that all the ...
11-01-2006, 01:48 PM
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| Lurker Democrat 
| Originally Posted by JaJae I dunno, how is it that when the issue your average voter is focused in on is Iraq, that all the desparados on the right are piling onto Kerry because of a totally insignificant glitch? Could it be that you guys have to change the subject? Well, milk it for all it's worth, because it won't last more than a day or two,and it won't change the outcome of the election. People care about getting our troops out of Iraq. The bottom line is, Kerry is nowhere to be found on any ballot this year. That's more than you can say for your boy FOLEY.....What's the latest on HIM, btw? See, I can change the subject with the best of you.
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11-01-2006, 01:48 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party
| Originally Posted by Vietvet We're talking about Foley now?
There are a million threads about Bush on this forum. There are three about Kerry. We try to stay focused on issues within individual threads and not slander random politicians that have no relation. | ||||
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11-01-2006, 01:52 PM
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| Master Debator Election Moderator  Democrat Omaha, NE
| Originally Posted by JaJae Issues being shifted? The only thing that is disappointing is that people are talking about this instead of real issues before they vote. This, although dumb of Kerry, really has nothing to do with anyone except for those in MA.
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11-01-2006, 01:52 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by 7960 Need more be said?  | ||||
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11-01-2006, 01:53 PM
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| ..... your a worthless poster  Realist
| Originally Posted by Vietvet
you keep believing that... him basically saying "we send stupid people to iraq" and then saying "I'm not going to apologize" isn't helping their side....DRUDGE REPORT 2006®
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11-01-2006, 01:55 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae Oh, OK, I get it. Sorry, I'm new around here. You can only slander Kerry on this thread. I see......
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11-01-2006, 01:58 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| retired people coming out against kerry? funny my calendar says 2006, but these lines are right out of 2004 i dont know what people want out of JK...go back in time is the only solution He isn't and shouldn't apologize because the GOP spin machine took the video tape and ran it around the country, he didn't do that He should admit he botched it (he did) apologize to those in the crowd or who on Oct 30th saw it and felt he was insulting the truth, but he clearly should not apologize to those who have been listening to the GOP machine's take However, if he tried to explain it, it would just be another day on the news, and he'd be digging another hole, so he did what he could do, he just went back to DC | ||||
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11-01-2006, 01:58 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party
| Originally Posted by Vietvet Imagine if you made a thread about the Foley scandal. And someone like me, you know someone who gets all his facts from Rush and Fox, starts making jokes about the intelligence of John Kerry or other non-related people. It's off topic. We tend to stick to the topic. That doesn't mean you can't slander say McCain's views who has spoken repeatedly against Kerry. But to just start randomly insulting the intelligence of random politicians isn't necessary.
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11-01-2006, 02:05 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Thread merged with the one that already existed on this subject. | ||||
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11-01-2006, 02:06 PM
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| Lurker Democrat
| Originally Posted by 7960 You're throwing up a HELL of a lot of smoke, but there's one problem-no fire. A slight correction:What he said actually is more like,"A stupid person sent our troops into Iraq." And imo, no apology is required, if you're telling the truth. He botched his words. So what? By election day, this whole load of bs will be nil.
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11-01-2006, 02:07 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party
| Originally Posted by Vietvet Kerry apologizes for 'a botched joke' - Yahoo! News
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11-01-2006, 02:09 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| You can disagree all you want, but he admitted he botched the joke he was trying to make about Bush being stupid and getting us "stuck in Iraq." ..and you can assume or insinuate or guess or extrapolate whatever you want from the botched remarks, but the bottom line is that he's clarified it and that's that. | ||||
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11-01-2006, 02:11 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| So he said he meant no offense by what came out of his mouth...and that precludes him from saying he botched the joke? I have no idea what you are talking about JaJae | ||||
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11-01-2006, 02:12 PM
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| ..... your a worthless poster Realist
| Originally Posted by Vietvet I keep listening to it and I keep hearing "if you make the most of your education you can do well and if you don't you get stuck in iraq." Sorry, was my first thought supposed to be "oh, he means bush got stuck in iraq!!!" and not "he thinks the hundreds of thousands of people in iraq are uneducated"?
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11-01-2006, 02:13 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae It wasn't random, it was done to make a point which was evidently lost on you. The point is: It shows an almost frantic desperation on the right to change the subject by grabbing onto whatever they can, no matter how trivial. And compared to the scandal-ridden mess in DC and the misguided war in Iraq, a verbal fart on Kerry's part
 doesn't quite merit this kind of feeding frenzy. I was merely trying to put this "issue" in perspective, that's all. | ||||
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11-01-2006, 02:13 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Is this a response to me, I see my name there. But I have no idea what you're saying.
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11-01-2006, 02:13 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Clarification or not, botched joke or not, Kerry made the remarks, Kerry offended many people, including our troops, and to say Bush is at fault for any of this is just as funny as the media swirl around Kerry. Only Kerry is responsible for what comes out of Kerry's mouth. | ||||
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11-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Kerry told radio host Don Imus he meant no offense to troops and apologized for what he called "a botched joke" about President Bush's Iraq policies. -CNN /story | ||||
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11-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Kerry has admitted it came out wrong. It was misinterpreted. He has released what he meant to say:
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11-01-2006, 02:16 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Good, he should have apologized, and he's learned a valuable lesson. Now he reaps the consequences of his actions, just as we all do in every day of our lives. That's part of the lesson-learning process.
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