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Old 07-22-2006, 10:44 AM   #41
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July 22, 2006 -- ISRAEL is losing this war. For a lifelong Israel supporter, that's a painful thing to write. But it's true. And the situation's worsening each day.
A U.S. government official put it to me this way: "Israel's got the clock, but Hezbollah's got the time." The sands of the hourglass favor the terrorists - every day they hold out and drop more rockets on Israel, Hezbollah scores a propaganda win.

All Hezbollah has to do to achieve victory is not to lose completely. But for Israel to emerge the acknowledged winner, it has to shatter Hezbollah. Yet Israeli miscalculations have left Hezbollah alive and kicking.

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/op...lph_peters.htm

the guy gets all mysty and conservative pro-israel, so its nice to hear HIM of all people say those lines...get some REALITY into the situation
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:12 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
the guy gets all mysty and conservative pro-israel, so its nice to hear HIM of all people say those lines...get some REALITY into the situation
best line: Syria and Iran are getting a free ride. Hezbollah fights and dies, Damascus and Tehran collect the dividends.

He is right, Israel will have to launch an all-out ground assault to win
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:21 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor
best line: Syria and Iran are getting a free ride. Hezbollah fights and dies, Damascus and Tehran collect the dividends.

He is right, Israel will have to launch an all-out ground assault to win
Then the Lebanese army is going to get involved...you know atleast one commander will order his troops to fight an Israeli force, because there won't be counter-orders not to do so, but an even worse case scenario is if the whole lebanese army engages Israel

add in Hezbollah, and you have a ground war Israel can't win

Why? Because they will knock over the anti-Syrian government in the process if they push too hard or lose militarily if they push too soft, Hezbollah will flee to Syria, and when Israel withdraws Hezbollah will come back as the majority party
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:30 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
A feeling of wonder?

It certainly invokes that when thinking how men so poorly trained and armed can sum up the courage to charge at vastly superior US forces
Amazing what a few religious extremists who have no value for human life can convince a group of illiterate peasents what is in the Khoran.

It's almost disgusting how every time you talk about these fanatics, who butcher civilians by the hundreds, including women and children, you say it with a sense of awe and worship. No. It is disgusting.
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:32 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
July 22, 2006 -- ISRAEL is losing this war. For a lifelong Israel supporter, that's a painful thing to write. But it's true. And the situation's worsening each day.

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the guy gets all mysty and conservative pro-israel, so its nice to hear HIM of all people say those lines..


This forum is seriously beginning to disgust me.
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:40 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by TekDragon
Amazing what a few religious extremists who have no value for human life can convince a group of illiterate peasents what is in the Khoran.
You're talking about the Christian Crusaders?

It's almost disgusting how every time you talk about these fanatics, who butcher civilians by the hundreds, including women and children, you say it with a sense of awe and worship. No. It is disgusting
I certainly don't worship anyone, and the Mahdi offensive of 2004 did not involve civilian casualties, and al-Sadr and al-Sistani have repeatadly told shias not to kill civilians

So, what I say, is disgusting, how?
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:40 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by TekDragon


This forum is seriously beginning to disgust me.
How so?
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:41 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
You're talking about the Christian Crusaders?
Yeah, i'm talking about half a millenia ago in a time when the whole world was barbaric
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:49 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by TekDragon
Yeah, i'm talking about half a millenia ago in a time when the whole world was barbaric
Just because Europe was run by Christians doesn't mean they were barbaric, I'm not that anti-Christian, you should cool your jets there are a lot of Christians on this forum
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
Just because Europe was run by Christians doesn't mean they were barbaric, I'm not that anti-Christian, you should cool your jets there are a lot of Christians on this forum


That's some amazing backpeddling and deflection you're doing there. You're not fooling anyone, even if you delete your previous posts they are still quoted.
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:54 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by TekDragon


That's some amazing backpeddling and deflection you're doing there. You're not fooling anyone, even if you delete your previous posts they are still quoted.
I've never deleted a post, I don't know where you're wandering with that, but you seem to be complimenting me, so thanks
 
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