Anyone watching CNN's exclusive?

motivez · 07-18-2006, 11:17 PM

Hezbollah has apparently changed their policy and allowed CNN cameras in to show some of the devestation that Israel's bombing is causing.. they're running through much of the rubble pretty fast because they're worried about it being bombed

They're showing that much of the damage is to civilian areas, buildings, etc.. and they're saying that their military infrastructure has not really been very damaged.

thomez · 07-18-2006, 11:18 PM

Hezbollah probably operates out of civilian areas

Thorgrim · 07-18-2006, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by thomez

Hezbollah probably operates out of civilian areas

they do, but what would you suggest, they operate bases with big Hezbollah flags? They wouldn't last a week

thomez · 07-18-2006, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

they do, but what would you suggest, they operate bases with big Hezbollah flags? They wouldn't last a week

no, I am not suggesting that at all

ballz2wallz · 07-18-2006, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Hezbollah has apparently changed their policy and allowed CNN cameras in to show some of the devestation that Israel's bombing is causing.. they're running through much of the rubble pretty fast because they're worried about it being bombed

They're showing that much of the damage is to civilian areas, buildings, etc.. and they're saying that their military infrastructure has not really been very damaged.

what exactly IS their military infrastructure?

6SpeedTA95 · 07-18-2006, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by thomez

no, I am not suggesting that at all

They do operate out of civilian areas and its obvious why they let CNN in.

motivez · 07-18-2006, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

what exactly IS their military infrastructure?

I assume they mean any tanks they have, weapons caches (rockets, guns, ammo, fuel), etc.. vehicles as well

Ardentfrost · 07-18-2006, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

I assume they mean any tanks they have, weapons caches (rockets, guns, ammo, fuel), etc.. vehicles as well

So, either Isreal has bad aim or bad intelligence... surely they wouldn't be targeting civilians, right?

thomez · 07-18-2006, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

So, either Isreal has bad aim or bad intelligence... surely they wouldn't be targeting civilians, right?

I'm sure they would target Hezbollah leadership if they were thought to be in civilian areas.

motivez · 07-18-2006, 11:37 PM

I don't think they're soley going for civilians, but I don't think they're exactly hesitating from firing on civilian areas where Hezbollah happens to reside.

Obviously they've dropped leaflets, etc, and whatnot.. to help limit the numbers of civilian deaths, and obviously that's a good thing. But, I think they're basically setting back Lebanon (and that includes civilian infrastructure) back 20 years

nerfball · 07-18-2006, 11:47 PM

Israel has already taken out several missles furnished by Iran. Hizbullah's game is to roll them out of hiding and launch them before the IDF can spot them and take them out... they are trying to target military assets. if hizbullah (or hezbollah, whatever spelling you like) doesn't want civilian infrustructure to get destroyed then maybe they shouldnt setup shop in residential neighborhoods.

motivez · 07-18-2006, 11:51 PM

I agree they shouldn't, but what happens to the civilians when they come into their area?

As they get pushed back, they will enter new civilian areas, and I think civilians are rather underequiped to take them on and try to push them out of their neighboorhoods.

I have an aquaintance who is living in Beirut atm and I know his area has suffered some damage. Somehow he's still managing to get online, but I don't know for how much longer that'll be the case.

nerfball · 07-19-2006, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

I agree they shouldn't, but what happens to the civilians when they come into their area?

As they get pushed back, they will enter new civilian areas, and I think civilians are rather underequiped to take them on and try to push them out of their neighboorhoods.

I have an aquaintance who is living in Beirut atm and I know his area has suffered some damage. Somehow he's still managing to get online, but I don't know for how much longer that'll be the case.

that's a helluva situation, best wishes and good luck to them.

at this point, civilians need to just get out by whatever means they can. I know its easy to say that, but really, your life is worth more than some material things. they should be able to find some shelter somewhere. is international aid and support kicking in? where is the red cross?

these are just typical, disgusting tactics by terrorsts. they dont give a rats ass about the Lebenese populous. they cant win against the Israeli forces so they resort to hiding among civilians.

Comrade Ramius · 07-19-2006, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

As they get pushed back, they will enter new civilian areas, and I think civilians are rather underequiped to take them on and try to push them out of their neighboorhoods.

Not only are civilians vastly underequipped to push out Hezbollah, but all the reports I've seen say that Hezbollah is stronger than the Lebanese army itself. So it's no wonder why Hezbollah is there, they run the show, and no one can stop them.

thomez · 07-19-2006, 01:06 AM

the underlying problem that nobody in the media will mention is that it is very likely that most of the Lebanese, both army and civilians, supports Hezbollah when encountering Israel.

they aren't ever going to fight each other over one side attacking Israel, even if gets their country all F'ed up

Comrade Ramius · 07-19-2006, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by thomez

the underlying problem that nobody in the media will mention is that it is very likely that most of the Lebanese, both army and civilians, supports Hezbollah when encountering Israel.

they aren't ever going to fight each other over one side attacking Israel, even if gets their country all F'ed up

80% my ass.