Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Then why is their limit 5 million? Because they are rich? It's not a tax on their paychecks; it's a tax on whatever property they possess at the time of their deaths....
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07-29-2006, 12:12 PM
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| Member  libertarian New York City, New York 
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent
 It's not a tax on their paychecks; it's a tax on whatever property they possess at the time of their deaths. | ||||
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07-29-2006, 12:12 PM
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| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Maybe not now but I doubt they would have gotten where they are without being born rich.
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07-29-2006, 12:58 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Sure, move to NJ. Fucking corrupt peices of shit they are...
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07-29-2006, 02:38 PM
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| Friend to all.  Socialist Maryland
| Why tax any of it to begin with? Whether it's $5.00 or $5 billion? Seems more fair to me? | ||||
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07-29-2006, 03:51 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Donkey® Because if we didn't the country would collapse, one way or another
and at the end of the that, we'd all wake up to our new Chinese Overlords | ||||
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07-29-2006, 03:55 PM
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| Common Sense Conservative  Realist
| Originally Posted by 7960 I think this sentence explains the mentality of a lot who support tax free inheritances. You said people should go out and earn their own millions, then they'd understand...the implication being that anyone, should they chose, can go out and earn millions. In other words, if you're not a millionaire with an estate to pass on, it's because you were lazy or unambitious.
Personally, I don't see it that way at all. I basically see capitalism as a huge lottery where very few get the winning tickets. What makes those "winners" has a lot to do with luck and things you were born with, and then some hard work thrown in too. In such a situation, it doesn't make as much sense to allow people keep all those millions locked up forever, tax free, when it was just the luck of the draw which got them rich in the first place. | ||||
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07-29-2006, 04:05 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| They fail at realizing the obvious If all 300 million americans got out there, and worked as hard and smart as humanly possible, would they all have millions of dollars in income? Ofcourse not In a smaller example, if every public student in a school tries his hardest, there can only be a few in the top 10%, nomatter you just tell them to work harder, its all percentages, an endless treadmill Without people working the dirty blue collar jobs, and not just young people, older men and women with years of experience to hasten the job...our economy would collapse will this basic and obvious point stop the mockery? Ofcourse not, why would they let anyone or anything get in their way of spitting on the poor to make themselves feel better, because, no matter how many any of them could fail as a human being, they can always tell themselves that at least they are not homeless | ||||
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07-29-2006, 04:40 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by beez I understand that. But it's more like giving money between individuals without having top pay tax on it. If I want to give my friend $100K it would be taxed. Why should dead people be able to transfer funds without paying a penalty?
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07-29-2006, 05:07 PM
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| Member libertarian New York City, New York
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Well, for one, they wouldn't be transferring the funds were they not dead. They're also unable to benefit from the funds or the transfer because they're dead. I think it's also to discourage people from storing assets like that in places where the government won't get any at all upon transfer.
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07-29-2006, 05:55 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Funny that they're willing to go to such lengths to help the wealthy, but don't feel like helping the poorest or weakest members of our society Fundraiding ability apparently is > * | ||||
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07-29-2006, 05:57 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by beez who cares? at least she's doing something
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07-29-2006, 05:59 PM
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| Member libertarian New York City, New York
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz It doesn't speak to her 'business savvy' that her career is built on the wealth she was born into.
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07-29-2006, 06:01 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by beez she's in fashion. she's made millions upon millions in fashion, as well as other things completely different from what she was born into. she was born wealthy, but has worked for much of her own wealth. there are plenty of people born into nice situations. who gives a fuck. lucky them.
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07-29-2006, 06:03 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz ballz2wallz, defender of Paris Hilton's strong work ethic
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07-29-2006, 06:04 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| She didn't work for her wealth dude, she's where she is because she was born into a rich family, had a boring sex tape that made her infamous, and has used her "sluttiness" to launch a "career" based on the fact that she has a vagina and people have seen it. I don't begrudge her that wealth or the ability to use it as a "leg up" like some might, she's entitled to it because she was born into the family, and her parents worked hard enough that they should be able to do whatever they want to do with their money... But don't make her out to be some sort of business savy smart chick, coz that aint the case. | ||||
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07-29-2006, 06:16 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by motivez I agree. People came to her and they're using her name. She's not doing anything but signing a contract and getting a check in the mail.
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07-29-2006, 06:28 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by motivez i heard she's made more money through her work than she'll inherit.
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07-29-2006, 06:31 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist North Carolina
| Perhaps, but that's not really countering anything I've said about that "work" | ||||
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07-29-2006, 06:47 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I don't think it's "work" she's doing as much as it is her status is earning her money.
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07-29-2006, 06:56 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by JaJae does it really matter?
are we going to punish her for her luck of being born to a big businessman? | ||||
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