Being Poor is NOT a Crime - Page 4

ballz2wallz · 11-02-2006, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

why does a restaurant need a license? there are laws against poisoning people.

They are a business. A charity is not.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 11-02-2006, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

They are a business. A charity is not.

Sweet, so if you don't charge money, you can perform surgery without an MD.

ballz2wallz · 11-02-2006, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Sweet, so if you don't charge money, you can perform surgery without an MD.

Hmm, comparing giving food to the homeless to surgery...

I just don't see it.

7960 · 11-02-2006, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

They are a business. A charity is not.

Charities are businesses. They may not show a profit, but they're a business.

WickedLou9 · 11-02-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Charities are businesses. They may not show a profit, but they're a business.

exactly, they just fall into another catagory in the tax code. They have income, they produce a product. They pay thier employees a salary. etc.

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

why does a restaurant need a license? there are laws against poisoning people.

They shouldn't need a license

it is a TAX

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

Charities are businesses. They may not show a profit, but they're a business.

Me giving someone a peanut butter and jelly sandwitch is not business, it is personal charity

I don't need to pay off some ass in government to help a fellow human. It is compassion, it is caring.

It is not something for someone to get in the way of because they "think" that I may do harm.

WickedLou9 · 11-02-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Me giving someone a peanut butter and jelly sandwitch is not business, it is personal charity

I don't need to pay off some ass in government to help a fellow human. It is compassion, it is caring.

It is not something for someone to get in the way of because they "think" that I may do harm.

You would never be fined for giving someone a sandwich.

You would be fined if you took out space in building and hired a few guys to make sandwiches and hand them out to homeless people in large numbers.

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

You would never be fined for giving someone a sandwich.

You would be fined if you took out space in building and hired a few guys to make sandwiches and hand them out to homeless people in large numbers.

So what if I am doing that to help people. I don't see one bit of difference from that and me individually doing it.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 11-02-2006, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Hmm, comparing giving food to the homeless to surgery...

I just don't see it.

You fuck up food preparation, people could die. You fuck up a surgery, people could die.

DosEquis · 11-02-2006, 05:49 PM

At his carwashes, my dad used to pay these 2 homeless guys $1 a trash barrel to dump them and $5 to sweep the lot while he was there. On a good day who ever did it would get $10 bucks. They would go buy a sandwich, pint of gin, some juice, and 3 or 4 cigarettes at this place that sold them on an individual basis.

He arrived every day around the same time, give or take 10 minutes. Eventually before he got there they started dumping half the barrels out on the ground and spread it out, thus requiring them to sweep, and nearly getting $10 every time. It was completely obvious when they did and he said something about it like 2 or 3 times to stop. The last time my dad told them to f-off and they were "fired". They came up like 4 or 5 more times to do it and he ended up yelling at them before they quit coming back.

Just my quick homeless people story.

WickedLou9 · 11-02-2006, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

So what if I am doing that to help people. I don't see one bit of difference from that and me individually doing it.

They just want to be sure that some well meaning person doesnt go and start some soup kitchen and do it all wrong and end up making people sick or whatever else. When you involve a significant number of people in something like that you need controls.

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

They just want to be sure that some well meaning person doesnt go and start some soup kitchen and do it all wrong and end up making people sick or whatever else. When you involve a significant number of people in something like that you need controls.

you think paying a tax automatically makes things safe?

they can find out who poisioned people if it occurs. just because you pay a tax doesn't make the sandwitches safe. all they do is ensure the kitchen is in working order. you can still poision people before you hand the sandwitches out. what good does it do besides providing someone with a job?

WickedLou9 · 11-02-2006, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

you think paying a tax automatically makes things safe?

they can find out who poisioned people if it occurs. just because you pay a tax doesn't make the sandwitches safe. all they do is ensure the kitchen is in working order. you can still poision people before you hand the sandwitches out. what good does it do besides providing someone with a job?

It can if inorder to get approval you need to show that certain health codes are being complied with. The tax goes to pay the salary of the health inspectors and what not.

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

It can if inorder to get approval you need to show that certain health codes are being complied with. The tax goes to pay the salary of the health inspectors and what not.

Tell me, what prevents someone from passing the inspection then poisioning people?

KatKanPlay · 11-02-2006, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

Tell me, what prevents someone from passing the inspection then poisioning people?

Human decency.

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by KatKanPlay

Human decency.

so what is the point of paying the tax if you want to help people?

if you are going to poision someone, it doesn't quite matter, now does it.

it prevents those that WOULD help people from doing so. it doesn't prevent those who would do harm from doing so.

ballz2wallz · 11-02-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by hsmith

so what is the point of paying the tax if you want to help people?

if you are going to poision someone, it doesn't quite matter, now does it.

it prevents those that WOULD help people from doing so. it doesn't prevent those who would do harm from doing so.

It's like the gun laws...gun laws don't influence anybody but law abiding citizens who aren't going to kill anyone anyway. If a criminal wants to harm someone, they will do so, no matter the laws in places, the taxes they have to pay, etc.

hsmith · 11-02-2006, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

It's like the gun laws...gun laws don't influence anybody but law abiding citizens who aren't going to kill anyone anyway. If a criminal wants to harm someone, they will do so, no matter the laws in places, the taxes they have to pay, etc.

exactly what i wrote as i typed it out

if you want to poision people, you will.

if you wnat to help people, you have to buy an expensive license to

while the poor dig through trash and eat rotten food

great liberal lideals

KatKanPlay · 11-02-2006, 06:08 PM

[quote=hsmith;55274]so what is the point of paying the tax if you want to help people?
It is all much bigger than just free food.