Pol Expert Dr. Larry Sabato makes final election predictions

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Liar, post reported

Still not entirely true. It was barely at 1.5% not over 2+%

No matter how you take what you said. And I admit, I misunderstood you. But the polls didn't have bush up by more than 2 points like you claimed. Keep reporting posts for your inaccuracies.

This is the final week of elections. We can't have people posting false polling information. You keep exaggerating polls today, and not just in this thread. A point here a point there, it adds up when dealing with numbers under 3 points...

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

And of course you think Democrats are just too good to hack the Diebold machines as well...like they did Lieberman's website

His site wasn't hacked.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

His site wasn't hacked.

Hardly the point of the post, now isn't it?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Hardly the point of the post, now isn't it?

What?

You implied they hacked his site, which is not true.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

His site wasn't hacked.

According to Lieberman's campaign communications director, Marion Steinfels, "Yep, we've been hacked."

"There's a coordinated effort to overloaded our bandwith and that has brought down our website and our e-mail," she said. The attack began around mid-morning, she said.

Steinfels said the company that hosts the campaign website is investigating. It's the third time the site was broken into; it's the second time within a month.

This was the last I heard. Was it found to be something else?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

This was the last I heard. Was it found to be something else?

Yea he didn't pay his bill. Which is why Ballz put the at the end. It was obviously intended to be a joke.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Which is why Ballz put the at the end. It was obviously intended to be a joke.

At least someone realized the point of my post.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

This was the last I heard. Was it found to be something else?

This story was covered awhile ago, the host failed to cover the hits, they payed for crappy service and got it

the technical details are ridiculous to go over, but remember his campaign dropped the story pretty fast after the initial "smoke but no fire" damage was done

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Still not entirely true. It was barely at 1.5% not over 2+%

No matter how you take what you said. And I admit, I misunderstood you. But the polls didn't have bush up by more than 2 points like you claimed. Keep reporting posts for your inaccuracies.

This is the final week of elections. We can't have people posting false polling information. You keep exaggerating polls today, and not just in this thread. A point here a point there, it adds up when dealing with numbers under 3 points...

If you take all the 2-3 day polls that finished in November, you get 2.3+ Bush

Bush won by 2.4....thats an average off by 0.1%
United States presidential election, 2004 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd say that's pretty fucking accurate

Also, once you get into Senate races and Govenors races, its also extremely accurate

bottom line: polls conducted in the final 3 days of a campaign, averaged, are extremely accurate...5 days before...usually accurate if averaged, but not pinpoint

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Yea he didn't pay his bill. Which is why Ballz put the at the end. It was obviously intended to be a joke.

I don't get it. He did get hacked. If not 3 times than twice for sure.

Tuesday's attack was the third in the past month, said Dan Geary, who runs Lieberman's site. But the earlier two attacks involved defacements

People said they didn't pay the bill but I see no one being able to prove it.

The Joe2006.com Web site was hosted on a computer named ThePlanet.com, a Web server computer that also hosts about 70 other Web sites. Many of those sites — such as NVToday.com, a local news service in Nevada — were also hard to reach on Tuesday.

Sounds like a DoS to me

[Stylerod]

pic of one hack

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

If you take all the 2-3 day polls that finished in November, you get 2.3+ Bush

And if you had said that perhaps it would have been true. The correct information has been posted. We can both stop cluttering this thread now.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I don't get it. He did get hacked. If not 3 times than twice for sure.



People said they didn't pay the bill but I see no one being able to prove it.




Sounds like a DoS to me

can you believe me just once, about one thing, i read this story ad nausem, and no i didnt save the links because the story was over

they were not hacked

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

[IMG]

pic of one hack

even if that picture is true, it was months before the primary night, when Lieberman alleged the lamont campaign was behind it

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

pic of one hack

Sounds like you have a good argument there man. Why not make a thread about it and get some feedback?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Sounds like you have a good argument there man. Why not make a thread about it and get some feedback?

look at the time stamp

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

look at the time stamp

The fact that I really have to explain this is beyond me. But here it goes.

The complaints against the machines are constantly against the Republicans, for reasons as you stated:

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Diebold machines are easy to hack...

So I of course jokingly state that

Originally Posted by Ballz2wallz

And of course you think Democrats are just too good to hack the Diebold machines

Now, following the constant barage of attacks against me for jokingly mentioning the hacks on Lieberman's website, it seems his site actually was hacked into. Nonetheless, what's the point of all this? It's absolutely stupid to say the machines will be manipulated by Republicans by being hacked into, as if Democrats are just above hacking into computers, as if they won't evne consider it, as if they take hte moral high ground. I'm not even admitting that Republicans do or have hacked into the systems, because I just don't know, but to make it seem as if only they can and will is absolutely preposterous. Frankly it shouldn't even be a point in an argument.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

The fact that I really have to explain this is beyond me. But here it goes.

The complaints against the machines are constantly against the Republicans, for reasons as you stated:




So I of course jokingly state that



Now, following the constant barage of attacks against me for jokingly mentioning the hacks on Lieberman's website, it seems his site actually was hacked into. Nonetheless, what's the point of all this? It's absolutely stupid to say the machines will be manipulated by Republicans by being hacked into, as if Democrats are just above hacking into computers, as if they won't evne consider it, as if they take hte moral high ground. I'm not even admitting that Republicans do or have hacked into the systems, because I just don't know, but to make it seem as if only they can and will is absolutely preposterous. Frankly it shouldn't even be a point in an argument.

You know, I have yet to give you one disapproval in reputation, yet you act like im attacking you

im talking to style who thinks we should re-examine the Lieberman story

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Sounds like you have a good argument there man. Why not make a thread about it and get some feedback?

Because it's old news I guess. I was just responding to Scrums message that they weren't hacked. It seems they have been. 2 times for sure, one other time maybe.