Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent So I think this trial has been a sham and it's being used for political gain here in the US. That means I MUST think Saddam was a great guy. Saddam is a piece of shit. He deserved death, but from a real court. Not this ...
11-05-2006, 07:24 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC 
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent It does. Just sad I have to come in here to bring "balance" to the threads. I shouldn't have to. 
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11-05-2006, 07:32 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod It's not bringing balance to the thread. It's changing the subject.
You would be bringing balance if someone had posted that he was a great guy. We can have a disscussion about the Saddam trial without going over the fact he's a piece of shit. It's more about the trial and less about the defendant. | ||||
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11-05-2006, 07:41 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Agreed. I still haven't seen a response to my comments (or any of the comments) about it being a kangaroo court, a mockery of justice, or the fact that Bush had another opportunity to bring the rest of the world in on this and shunned them once again... I'd be interested to see if someone has an opposing view.  | ||||
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11-05-2006, 08:37 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez The people of Iraq wanted him tried in country. Why send him off for someone else to try when he did the crimes against his own people.
There can still be time to try him for crimes against other people in other countries by an international court. | ||||
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11-05-2006, 10:00 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez true
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11-05-2006, 11:20 PM
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| Baka  Idealist Adelaide, Australia
| I don't think he should have got the death penalty, but only because I oppose capital punishment. I would have liked to see a better execution of the the court case, but it was not really possible the way it was set up. How do you apply rule of law effectively to a dictator? You can't really do it in a consistent manner as there is no consistently applied law. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 12:21 AM
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11-06-2006, 12:22 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
 You caught us. We are upset he was found guilty. Most of us thought he would be found innocent. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 12:25 AM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Hey, it's your thread. Your comment on the story? It was a conspiracy
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11-06-2006, 12:26 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod The timing, not the verdict.
Nice try though. Lets see some links of the "left" being upset about him being found guilty. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 12:38 AM
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| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Saddam Sentanced to Death
first 4 posts. Not one saying he should have been found guilty or that it was a good thing. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 12:41 AM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Ofcourse its not a good thing, the next time a US soldier gets caught they can use 2006 US morals to have a kangaroo court and hang him, and we don't have any right to complain
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11-06-2006, 12:50 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Perhaps you don't understand.
I was asking for a link of someone saying it was a bad thing and being upset with the verdict because they thought he was innocent. People not saying it's good doesn't mean they are saying it was bad. It means we are discussing other issues with the trial. We made our views quite clear in those posts. They found him guilty and the whole trial has been screwed from the beginning. That makes no judgement on what Saddam did or how we felt about him. Does every post in a WW2 thread have to say how evil Hitler was or the poster clearly supports him and thinks what he did was right? | ||||
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11-06-2006, 01:15 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Hmmm, maybe they aren't all happy afterall.
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11-06-2006, 01:19 AM
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| One American Family at a Time.  Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent I think we are only supposed to hear the people cheering.
__________________ "People are selfish. But they can also be compassionate and generous, and they care about the country. But not when they feel threatened. That's why this is such a crucial time. We can go in either direction. But if we don't make a choice soon, it will be too late to turn things around. I think people are willing to make the right choice. But they need leadership. They're hungry for leadership." BK/1968 | ||||
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11-06-2006, 01:32 AM
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| Bokonist  Independent Kansas City
| Originally Posted by motivez So the fact that people tried to de-rail this trial means the trial was a joke. If mafia members in America were to kill families, judges and attorneys we would applaud those who stuck it out and saw justice done.
It's not like there will be some great reward for those who participated in the trial. They obviously felt it was their duty and were proud to have a hand in their countries future. It's a great step forward for them, I find it suprising the amount of negative feedback this news is getting. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 01:34 AM
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| Originally Posted by motivez Your primary arguement about it being a kangaroo court is that they operated in the face of adversity.
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11-06-2006, 01:41 AM
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| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent You must either think his actions reasonable or expect the same moral character in the new Iraqi leadership.
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11-06-2006, 01:55 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by nbiggershaft I'm not sure what to expect. People do all sorts of things when facing a civil war or a loss of power in their country.
And I think there is a lot of space between reasonable action and what Hitler did. Saddam is in that space. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 02:52 AM
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| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent Seems a contridiction of the affirmative, he's a piece of shit and deserves death.
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