This is what happens when rhetoric gets out of control - Page 3

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

No offense, but that is not is not the way your posts read. It clearly reads that you blame the GOP for it. You kinda admit the left does it as well, but you consider it to not be as bad so therefore it is the "direct result" of Republican rhetoric. These are your words. What you meant to say, what you wish you said, and what you did say are three different things. All we have to go by is the latter.

His pulling of the trigger is not a result of the rhetoric and that's not what I said. I didn't blame Palin or the tea party directly for THIS event. Our politicians getting shot is a step which I feel is CAUSED by this rhetoric... the general tenor and hate of politics in this country at this time causes things like this to happen directly and indirectly. Again, argue the same stupid point all you want. I've clarified it several times...expanded on it several times. Give it a fucking rest. If you don't understand, don't want to understand or just want to keep playing games...feel free.

SonicBoom · 01-10-2011, 02:52 PM

This thread was just too soon. Let the facts come in first.

JaJae · 01-10-2011, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

His pulling of the trigger is not a result of the rhetoric and that's not what I said. I didn't blame Palin or the tea party directly for THIS event. Our politicians getting shot is a step which I feel is CAUSED by this rhetoric... Again, argue the same stupid point all you want. I've clarified it several times...expanded on it several times. Give it a fucking rest. If you don't understand, don't want to understand or just want to keep playing games...feel free.

You know this misunderstanding is a direct result of the left's bullshit on this forum. The same bullshit they claim not to condone. All this quoting and and reading of posts only instigates unstable people to do unstable things on this forum. You can claim the left isn't doing anything the right isn't... but there's an obvious difference between the two sides since all the Lib Tards joined the forum. To claim otherwise is weak.

Thread Tags: MSNBC, haters

Yea um. I wasn't blaming the left for the arguments that occur on this forum. I was clearly saying it's a problem that occurs on both sides.

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by SonicBoom

This thread was just too soon. Let the facts come in first.

If people would use their brains and read it wouldn't have been construed in an incorrect manner. When I claim this is a direct result of the right's nonsense...I mean the fucking article I posted and the points in it. I did not, have not and would not say that THIS EVENT WAS CAUSED BY THE RIGHT.

CharlieK · 01-10-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by illavbill

I don't understand you guys on the right. IMO the political rhetoric has gotten out of control.

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/299289-post25.html. And truth be told, the courrent rhetoric is most strident on the Left. All one has to do is tune into PMSNBC and listen to Keith Lolbemann to know what I am talking about.

I believe this is termed "Selective Ignorance".

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

You know this misunderstanding is a direct result of the left's bullshit on this forum. The same bullshit they claim not to condone. All this quoting and and reading of posts only instigates unstable people to do unstable things on this forum. You can claim the left isn't doing anything the right isn't... but there's an obvious difference between the two sides since all the Lib Tards joined the forum. To claim otherwise is weak.

Thread Tags: MSNBC, haters

Yea um. I wasn't blaming the left for the arguments that occur on this forum. I was clearly saying it's a problem that occurs on both sides.

Now you go from commenting on thread titles to thread tags in order to make an argument against me? You fail.

My comments were in regards to the article. Period. If you can't understand it, you're more stupid than I think you are.

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by CharlieK

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/299289-post25.html. And truth be told, the courrent rhetoric is most strident on the Left. All one has to do is tune into PMSNBC and listen to Keith Lolbemann to know what I am talking about.

I believe this is termed "Selective Ignorance".

And that's your opinion. There's one Olbermann for three Becks, Oreilly's and Hannity's.

wanna be drummer · 01-10-2011, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

When you can find something other than one sentence...twisted and flipped in order to ignore the rest of my post...the article I posted...and all additional posts in this thread...

Donkey, you're post involved

This is a direct result of the right's bullshit.

but nothing about the left, save for

You can claim the right isn't doing anything the left isn't...but there's been an obvious difference between the two sides since the Tea Baggers came about.

followed up by

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am also not blaming JUST the right...but at this time...it's mostly them.

So while you say you're claiming you don't think it's JUST the right, it's clearly coming off as though you believe it's the right, but you're throwing on some minor "attacks" at the left so you can claim to be neutral..

jus sayin

illavbill · 01-10-2011, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by CharlieK

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/299289-post25.html. And truth be told, the courrent rhetoric is most strident on the Left. All one has to do is tune into PMSNBC and listen to Keith Lolbemann to know what I am talking about.

I believe this is termed "Selective Ignorance".

Project much? I'm not talking about the fucking federalists and anti-federalists man. I'm talking about this bullshit being spewed by our politicians NOW, TODAY, The last few years, 24/7 that is then played over and over by our stupid 24 hr news media without comment other than to just play it. Don't give me the MSNBC bullshit, I don't watch the channel that much but you do NOT hear the shit coming from there that you do on FOX PERIOD. You're being "Selectively Ignorant" if you believe so.

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by wanna be drummer

Donkey, you're post involved but nothing about the left, save for
followed up by

So while you say you're claiming you don't think it's JUST the right, it's clearly coming off as though you believe it's the right, but you're throwing on some minor "attacks" at the left so you can claim to be neutral..

jus sayin

Yes, the content of the ARTICLE I POSTED is a direct result of the right. I NEVER said "that dude shot this lady because of the right." Not sure where the inference came from, but it's wrong...and I have more than clarified it.

I am also not claiming to be neutral. In MY OPINION, the right takes a majority of the blame at this time for where the rhetoric has ratcheted up to...others claim it's the left. We're all entitled to our opinions. I posted examples of what I am referring to. I didn't know we were dealing with quantum physics here because people seem baffled.

The Great Catpiss · 01-10-2011, 03:04 PM

So let me get this straight. We are all stupid idiots that don't know how to read the OP's pure genius post?

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Catpiss

So let me get this straight. We are all stupid idiots that don't know how to read the OP's pure genius post?

You can claim you don't understand it and ASK...or you can just infer what you like and look stupid. Your choice. I never...and the article never blamed the right for the guy's action.

JaJae · 01-10-2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

You can claim you don't understand it and ASK...or you can just infer what you like and look stupid. Your choice. I never...and the article never blamed the right for the guy's action.

Why would we claim not to understand something that was written pretty clearly? We're all educated... It said what it said.

wanna be drummer · 01-10-2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Yes, the content of the ARTICLE I POSTED is a direct result of the right. I NEVER said "that dude shot this lady because of the right." Not sure where the inference came from, but it's wrong...and I have more than clarified it.

Where did I say you thought this at all? I was referring to same thing you are...I was talking about the rhetoric

I am also not claiming to be neutral. In MY OPINION, the right takes a majority of the blame at this time for where the rhetoric has ratcheted up to...others claim it's the left. We're all entitled to our opinions. I posted examples of what I am referring to. I didn't know we were dealing with quantum physics here because people seem baffled.

I'm not baffled by anything. It seems you're confused with what I was talking about..I'm just pointing out that you tend to make these long-winded attacks on Republican talking points but barely make any acknolwedgement that the left does the same thing with events such as this

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Why would we claim not to understand something that was written pretty clearly? We're all educated... It said what it said.

Because you clearly didn't understand it...even as clear as you claim it was.

kinggovernor · 01-10-2011, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by illavbill

I don't understand you guys on the right. IMO the political rhetoric has gotten out of control. Calling for second amendment remedies etc. Who is to blame for this shit? The crazy ass kid who shot everybody up. HOWEVER, if you listened to and believed the news stations you'd think our president is a secret Muslim plant from another country that wants to destroy America, steal everybody's money, enslave white people blah blah blah. You'd also believe the country was full of fucking commies, socialists, nazis and whatever the hell else is shit out on the airwaves. Everybody is so quick to shit on Donkey and us "dupes" (yeah f you Charlie & you other ass hats that do nothing but insult and instigate shit about the left on this site with every post, while literally saying you're better and smarter than everybody else.) on the left when. Crap like this happens because of bullshit and irresponsible rhetoric from politicians and their followers period. The right & Teabaggers have a large part to do with the hatred spewing as of the last few years. Hell, the right-wingers that get media attention now have me wishing for bush to be the extreme right.

Who knows what this kid's reasons for doing this were, but no matter what his political affiliation or if it had shit to do with this shooting at all, shit needs to be TONED THE F DOWN in America. Look at this board as of late, we've been inundated with people that think anybody that isn't extreme right literally is dangerous to America.

Its unbelievable that people call the current President illegitimate it hasn't happened since....the last President.

The language of war has been used in political campaigns since there has been campaigns. This is nothing new and in fact we are much tamer than the 1960s, "Hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today", weather underground etc.

Donkey® · 01-10-2011, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

Its unbelievable that people call the current President illegitimate it hasn't happened since....the last President.

The language of war has been used in political campaigns since there has been campaigns. This is nothing new and in fact we are much tamer than the 1960s, "Hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today", weather underground etc.

Fringe groups and people like the weather underground aren't politicians. Palin, Obama, Schumer, Boehner...those are politicians making stupid statements.

SonicBoom · 01-10-2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

If people would use their brains and read it wouldn't have been construed in an incorrect manner. When I claim this is a direct result of the right's nonsense...I mean the fucking article I posted and the points in it. I did not, have not and would not say that THIS EVENT WAS CAUSED BY THE RIGHT.

What I mean is that it is too early to suggest what the cause may have been.

Everybody is acting like they have the situation all figured out. You guys don't know crap.

e.g., Maybe it turns out he did it to impress Jodi Foster.

kinggovernor · 01-10-2011, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Fringe groups and people like the weather underground aren't politicians. Palin, Obama, Schumer, Boehner...those are politicians making stupid statements.

do you really want me to post all the things that dems said about Bush

CharlieK · 01-10-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

do you really want me to post all the things that dems said about Bush

In all honesty to Junior, I don't believe there is enough space here to accomplish this. As angry as I am at him, he was still the butt of many a cruel, and unfounded, joke.

He's still a Statist, Big Government, high spending, sorry excuse of a president, and a disgrace to what the C&Gs claim to hold so dear.