50+ Lebanese civilians killed, including 27 children by Israel;Lebanon stops US-talks

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by motivez

It shouldn't matter, there are lives at stake on both sides and getting an international force in there (preferably from NATO, the UN seems impotent) would help things tremendously

Stuff like what happened today only makes it harder for that peace to be obtained because there must be 'revenge' enacted for the deaths.

the UN has been invovled for almost a decade. what the fuck do you think they're going to do.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

the UN has been invovled for almost a decade. what the fuck do you think they're going to do.

Uh, I said the UN seems impotent?

They really aren't allowed to 'engage', which is why I prefer NATO.. although a UN force with broader capacity to secure the area would be acceptable as well.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by motivez

Uh, I said the UN seems impotent?

They really aren't allowed to 'engage', which is why I prefer NATO.. although a UN force with broader capacity to secure the area would be acceptable as well.

oh, ok, i was just agreeing with you then. i read it too fast.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Yes, you are.

explain why you shouldn't bomb buildings with rockets on the roof?

[motivez]

The Israeli military was hesitant to say that they actually saw a rocket laucher on top of that building

They said on CNN International that there was a "Hezbollah target in the area"

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by motivez

The Israeli military was hesitant to say that they actually saw a rocket laucher on top of that building

They said on CNN International that there was a "Hezbollah target in the area"

i wasn't there I wouldn't know. But if there were rocket launchings going on from the building, I would expect Israel to hit it

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

i wasn't there I wouldn't know. But if there were rocket launchings going on from the building, I would expect Israel to hit it

Any links showing that the missiles were on top of the building? Israel claims they were trying to hit a different building.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Any links showing that the missiles were on top of the building? Israel claims they were trying to hit a different building.

no, you were the one to say that even if there were rockets there they shouldn't have bombed it

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

don't shoot rockets from the top of apartment buildings and that won't happen

404 Justification for killing mostly children not found

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Kytro

404 Justification for killing mostly children not found

if I wanted to plan a war, just build everything in schools that way there would be no justification for bombing me

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

if I wanted to plan a war, just build everything in schools that way there would be no justification for bombing me

It's funny Israel can hit all the civilian places it wants...Hezbollah is stronger than ever...doesn't make any military sense to me

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

if I wanted to plan a war, just build everything in schools that way there would be no justification for bombing me

It's simply another example of disproportionate response. However, if they did build everything in schools, which there is no evidence to indicate is the case, it still isn't anymore justified than random rocket attacks.

Both sides keep killing pretty much anyone who happens to be in the way, without any regard. The puts them on the same level.

[thomez]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Any links showing that the missiles were on top of the building? Israel claims they were trying to hit a different building.

every Israeli representative on tv today said that the IDF was working on proof that the area was used to launch "hundreds and hundreds" of Katusha rockets.

[Stylerod]

I'm thinking I would have left with my kids if these leaflets started falling from the sky.

Israeli said it targeted Qana because it was a base for hundreds of rockets launched at Israeli, including 40 that injured five Israelis on Sunday. Israel said it had warned civilians several days before to leave the village.

"One must understand the Hezbollah is using their own civilian population as human shields," said Israeli Foreign Ministry official Gideon Meir. "The Israeli defense forces dropped leaflets and warned the civilian population to leave the place because the Hezbollah turned it into a war zone."

[kinggovernor]

[quote=Kytro]404 Justification for killing mostly children not found[/QUOT
umm those buildinsg were being used for rocket attack

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's funny Israel can hit all the civilian places it wants...Hezbollah is stronger than ever...doesn't make any military sense to me

if they were to hit any place it wanted, woundn't northern lebabon be a target

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

if they were to hit any place it wanted, woundn't northern lebabon be a target

they have hit northern lebanon

and the christians support hezbollah by wider margins everyday as I showed in polls

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

umm those buildinsg were being used for rocket attack

Even if that is true, still does not justify killing women and children.

Same goes for hezbollah.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I'm thinking I would have left with my kids if these leaflets started falling from the sky.

Originally Posted by motivez

These people who are continuing to die have no means of 'escape' from the towns.

There is a lack of fuel. Israel has bombed the gas stations.
There is a lack of roads. Israel has bombed the highways, the biways, the bridges, and almost every means of transportation.
There is a lack of cars. Israel has destroyed many of them with their shelling and bombs. What ones are left people are afraid to use because Israel has bombed convoys of civilian cars leaving the area.
There is a lack of mass transportation. What hasn't been destroyed by Israeli bombing has already left. What busses remain aren't being used because, guess what, it's a shocker... Israel has bombed busses leaving the area that are full of civilians.

These people can't help their situation. They're not rich. There's no escape for them. So what do they do? The hole up in an apartment building, in the basement, and try to avoid the shelling.. and now this.

What do you think you would have been able to do differently?

[Donkey®]

These are the same people who said that the Katrina victims should have just left.