50+ Lebanese civilians killed, including 27 children by Israel;Lebanon stops US-talks

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

the pictures shows them in the midst of civilian houses

i'll leave it up to you to guess who's in those houses.

I see whats possibly one residential dwelling, I do not see them firing from ontop apartment buildings, in fact I don't see them firing at all, in fact I don't even see any evidence that this picture is not from years ago

believe it or not, there ARE EMPTY BUILDINGS IN LEBANON

the entire israeli government uses all its intelligence resources...and we get 3 vague undated pictures with no context

Have you seen the Hezbollah parades? Those guys would not fit in, they look like they'd pass out after the first march

This reminds me of all the evidence of mobile WMD labs in Iraq, it was overwhelming! Now we have 3 crappy pictures and this proves everything

I get it, Israel can do whatever it wants and you'll support them, they could nuke the entire Christian community and it'd be no big deal because real christians would have killed all the muslims by now, right?

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I see whats possibly one residential dwelling, I do not see them firing from ontop apartment buildings, in fact I don't see them firing at all, in fact I don't even see any evidence that this picture is not from years ago

believe it or not, there ARE EMPTY BUILDINGS IN LEBANON

the entire israeli government uses all its intelligence resources...and we get 3 vague undated pictures with no context

Have you seen the Hezbollah parades? Those guys would not fit in, they look like they'd pass out after the first march

This reminds me of all the evidence of mobile WMD labs in Iraq, it was overwhelming! Now we have 3 crappy pictures and this proves everything

I get it, Israel can do whatever it wants and you'll support them, they could nuke the entire Christian community and it'd be no big deal because real christians would have killed all the muslims by now, right?

i also provided a video :wink:

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

i also provided a video :wink:

yeah and the video is shit too

wow, they fired some rockets by some abandoned buildings, nice evidence

3 vague pictures and a fuzzy video out of context and you are ready to forgive ethnic cleansing, Hitler really could have used you for PR back in the day

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

yeah and the video is shit too

wow, they fired some rockets by some abandoned buildings, nice evidence

3 vague pictures and a fuzzy video out of context and you are ready to forgive ethnic cleansing, Hitler really could have used you for PR back in the day

you can read the article for yourself

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...007220,00.html

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

you can read the article for yourself

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...007220,00.html

ok, so some guys are on an AA gun (yeah im sure that worked wonders) in the Christian side of Beruit

yep, that sure is hezbollah firing rockets under civilians

Try reading the article...in the mean time I'll listen to the Israeli ambassador claim Hezbollah is holding its own members children hostage by force of arms inside buildings they somehow know Israel will bomb ofcourse completely ignoring the survivors story who say they went to the only safe building in walking distance and they were bombed by Israelis

If you decide to do anything besides cut and paste Israeli propaganda, let me know

[avsp]

Look clearly Isreal is not prepared to countenance a ceasefire till they've gained some kind of victory.

Equally clearly they are failing to suppress the rocket launches.

This just shows the poverty of the particular military tactics they're using. Also I note that the Hezbollah fighters seem to be better trained than in earlier Isreali incurstions into Lebanon as Isreali losses in firefights seems greater, ..., but perhaps this is due to them using Christain milias more in earlier conflicts, I dont know.

Either way severly degrading the infrastructure of the Lebanon is not in the long run going to make the Lebanese state more stable or more able to control the land

A total victory against Hezbollah seems very unlikely, ..., the Isrealis have bitten off more than can chew

The UK & US acquiesence to the Isreali plan is only going to reinforce Hezbollahs hand, & bolster the impression that its a 'war against muslims', regardless of how we see it.

Hebollah are in a win-win situation, they've used their much lesser might much more effectively than the Isrealis have used their superior might.

[avsp]

Look clearly Isreal is not prepared to countenance a ceasefire till they've gained some kind of victory.

Equally clearly they are failing to suppress the rocket launches.

This just shows the poverty of the particular military tactics they're using. Also I note that the Hezbollah fighters seem to be better trained than in earlier Isreali incurstions into Lebanon as Isreali losses in firefights seems greater, ..., but perhaps this is due to them using Christain milias more in earlier conflicts, I dont know.

Either way severly degrading the infrastructure of the Lebanon is not in the long run going to make the Lebanese state more stable or more able to control the land

A total victory against Hezbollah seems very unlikely, ..., the Isrealis have bitten off more than can chew

The UK & US acquiesence to the Isreali plan is only going to reinforce Hezbollahs hand, & bolster the impression that its a 'war against muslims', regardless of how we see it.

Hebollah are in a win-win situation, they've used their much lesser might much more effectively than the Isrealis have used their superior might.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

If you decide to do anything besides cut and paste Israeli propaganda, let me know

it's an australian newspaper

[Kytro]

Ugh the article was way to opinionated, but I suspect the hezbollah are using whatever cover they can find, considering thier stonghold may have been attacked.