Originally Posted by ballz2wallz That scary montage and burning of American flags were only videos of what they do over there. It's not making one bit of that up. So I suppose Micheal Moores videos are all just as credible? You can present information in such a manner as to ...
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11-06-2006, 02:33 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat South Jersey 
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz So I suppose Micheal Moores videos are all just as credible? You can present information in such a manner as to induce the reposne you are looking for. It doesn't make it false information.... It just makes it less credible and more biased. 
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11-06-2006, 02:40 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 You didn't watch the movie either
 There is not much twisting of videos or audio when it says 'Killing in the name of Allah is the best kind of killing, Death to America, we will not rest until we our flag is flying over Parliament, we will not rest until our flag is flying over the White House, even if the non-Muslims hate it' It's impossible to twist such things. You really should try watching it. Michael Moore needed commentary to get his points across. This needs to commentary; all one needs to do is be exposed to what goes on over there. No twisting, no distorting, no anything is necessary to make one understand what they are saying. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 02:41 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I'm not saying that they are twisiting it. They are just not telling a complete story. They present it in a way to intentionally frighten you.
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11-06-2006, 03:05 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 The complete story? They tell it from the radical Islamist point of view, based purely on their religion. They do tell the complete story. You really should see the movie before you make such assertions.
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11-06-2006, 03:13 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I already know what it is. I have seen similar stuff in the past and it serves no other purpose than to scare you into hating them and thinking that we better get them before they get us.
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11-06-2006, 03:24 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 Oh right...the 'I already know what it says so I don't need to see it' argument.
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11-06-2006, 04:22 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I have already seen pieces just like it. Complete with school children being told to attack pictures of george bush and calling the jews dogs and wanting to die for thier cause and learning to fire bazookas etc. There was something on TV not to long ago, maybe on HBO I can't remember, about some journalists who went over to shoot some footage from the palestinian point of view and form the jewish point of view. In the end the camera man is killed by an isreali soldier. But that was a little more balanced as it did show both sides.
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11-06-2006, 04:26 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 And I've only asked you to watch it if you haven't seen it.
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11-06-2006, 04:42 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I don't want to subject myself to more fear mongering.
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11-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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| One American Family at a Time.  Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I'm not saying that it was "making it up" I don't doubt the strong convictions of those people. But, I don't like watching things like that, that are just out to scare the bejeebus out of people to get them to vote one way, instead of presenting the truth in a non-scary montage manner.
__________________ "People are selfish. But they can also be compassionate and generous, and they care about the country. But not when they feel threatened. That's why this is such a crucial time. We can go in either direction. But if we don't make a choice soon, it will be too late to turn things around. I think people are willing to make the right choice. But they need leadership. They're hungry for leadership." BK/1968 | ||||
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11-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 That is my exact point.
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11-06-2006, 04:53 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
I saw the movie, and Wicked has it about right...  | ||||
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11-06-2006, 05:28 PM
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| Yeah, that guy.  Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Do they show the moderate muslims? Do they show any muslims who are against what the radicalists are doing?
I am guessing not. They are showing a skewed vision of the Middle East in order to scare voters into falling into lock-step behind Bush out of fear and to blindly support the 'War on Terror', especially such unconstitutional actions as the suspension of Habeas Corpus, illegal wiretapping, and other actions to 'protect us' from this imminent threat. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 05:32 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by garbagemanlb Why don't you watch it and find out
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11-06-2006, 05:33 PM
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| Yeah, that guy. Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Do they? If they do, then sure, I'd be open to watching it.
I refuse to sit down for an hour and a half of clips from various extremist groups, however...just as I'd refuse to sit and watch an hour and a half of anti-abortion videos or whatnot. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 06:18 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland You should be scared
This isn't something to take lightly. | ||||
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11-06-2006, 06:19 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by garbagemanlb Why would you refuse to watch the reality of things? I would figure you'd want to know the reality of a situation before making a decision on it
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11-06-2006, 06:37 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Why not watch F9/11? Don't you want to know reality?
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11-06-2006, 06:43 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent 1) That's an opinion piece; these videos are not.
2) Who says I haven't? | ||||
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