THE Chinese Hypocrisy of Donald Trump

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by The Great Catpiss

I suggest you do some reading up on all the people Trump hurt. He is a con man that plays by the rules using loopholes.

Clearly you are just some liberal who hates him for being republican. It is not his fault he is so cool that a fox choses to live on top of his head.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

I trash Trump because he is a fucking moron. Trump is zero threat to Barack Obama. I do not trash Trump because he is a republican. There are republicans I like and democrats i dont like.

He is an "ok" businessman but he is a manipulator and lacks virtue. He uses and abuses bankruptcy law to screw his creditors and gain better fiscal position instead of paying his bills. I think he is a better marketer than businessman.

When a middle class guy does it to get out of his credit card bill and collect food stamps he is clearly a free loading bastard. When Trump does it.. he is a smart businessman.

If an accountant knows all the loopholes and shady tricks to get out of paying your share of taxes it doesn't make him a bad accountant, it makes him a shady bastard. The same goes for Trump. Not a bad businessman, but a bad person.

[The Esteemed Gentleman]

Originally Posted by gipper

Was your buddy John Edwards a successful businessman and did you like him?

Do you read? Edwards was a multimillion dollar trial lawyer. Did you miss the mid-1990s or something?

[WickedLou9]

Originally Posted by Gunny

The attacks on Trump are because he has a "R" next to his name. That's all. The people that bash him don't even know his policies. They just know he represents a possible threat against Obama so they go in attack mode and say ridiculous things like how they could have made multi-billions of dollars too so he's not a good businessman.

Never been a fan of trashing someone just because their politics differ from mine. It's dishonest.

The attacks are not because of the R. I just gave praise to several people who are probably republicans, one of them ran for president as a republican. So clearly there is more at work than just party affiliation.

[WickedLou9]

Originally Posted by wanna be drummer

Going bankrupt for the rich is a lot different than going bankrupt for the poor my friend. They don't use it for the same reasons we do

It's business bankruptcy. It says " I have failed and I can't pay back my debts". It's there to help creditors get back something from the borrower. How many times has Apple declared chapter 11? How many times has GE or Coca-Cola declared chapter 11? It's an illustration to show that he is much less impressive a businessperson than many, many others.

[CharlieK]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Clearly you are just some liberal who hates him for being republican. It is not his fault he is so cool that a fox choses to live on top of his head.

[Stinger]

Originally Posted by JaJae

The only thing Trump has going for him over Obama is that he has at least a basic understanding of business and economics, something Obama fails miserably at.

Where was Trump when the last president cratered the economy? Standing on the sidelines praying to God that we didn't slip into a depression. Obama's understanding of the economy kept us from sliding off the edge and into 20% or 30% unemployment. republicans hated the stimulus so much they took credit for the jobs it created in their districts even though they voted against it and lied about the jobs it created.

Yeah. I got that "basic understanding of business and economics" right here.

[stolz25]

Originally Posted by Stinger

Where was Trump when the last president cratered the economy? Standing on the sidelines praying to God that we didn't slip into a depression.

This has to do with what? You seem to be blaming him for not taking action which would have been impossible to take.

Originally Posted by Stinger

Obama's understanding of the economy kept us from sliding off the edge and into 20% or 30% unemployment.

Good one. Obama's understanding of the economy cost future taxpayers trillions and you haven't the slightest clue what the unemployment rate would have been without it.

And if you had any understanding of the economy you'd know that it's health isn't measured in the unemployment rate anyway. I can show you a completely crappy economy with 100% employment.

Originally Posted by Stinger

Yeah. I got that "basic understanding of business and economics" right here.

You obviously do not.

For the record, I can't stand Trump. He is sleazy and a horrible human being in general. But if you want to attack him, at least choose from the plethora of real reasons.

[wanna be drummer]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

It's business bankruptcy. It says " I have failed and I can't pay back my debts". It's there to help creditors get back something from the borrower. How many times has Apple declared chapter 11? How many times has GE or Coca-Cola declared chapter 11? It's an illustration to show that he is much less impressive a businessperson than many, many others.

And yet despite all his failures, he's still one of the most successful businessmen in America (hence the whole being a billionaire thing).

Sometimes it's more profitable to declare bankruptcy. It eliminates debt pretty effectively

[CharlieK]

Originally Posted by wanna be drummer

And yet despite all his failures, he's still one of the most successful businessmen in America (hence the whole being a billionaire thing).

Sometimes it's more profitable to declare bankruptcy. It eliminates debt pretty effectively

I think I would be less general here. He is "one of the most successful" Promoters in America. As for businessman, he's ok, but far from one of the most. I would say that Don King was more successful though.

[wanna be drummer]

Originally Posted by CharlieK

I think I would be less general here. He is "one of the most successful" Promoters in America. As for businessman, he's ok, but far from one of the most. I would say that Don King was more successful though.

I'm not saying he's the best. He's not. But while he did start off with "money", he didn't start off with anything even remotely close to what he has now. He built an empire out of himself. Promoter, businessman. Tomato tomahto. He makes money and his property's got to worth billions more.


I hate the guy, but he's not stupid

[CharlieK]

Originally Posted by wanna be drummer

I'm not saying he's the best. He's not. But while he did start off with "money", he didn't start off with anything even remotely close to what he has now. He built an empire out of himself. Promoter, businessman. Tomato tomahto. He makes money and his property's got to worth billions more.


I hate the guy, but he's not stupid

Yeah, he's not stupid. But as Ross kaminsky, of the American Spectator stated, Trump is just an "old-fashioned populist statist autocrat." And he is correct.

But I don't hate him: I don't even know him. I just don't particularly like him, that's all. And he doesn't support my "fantasy" thinking, as I have been accused.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Stinger

Where was Trump when the last president cratered the economy? Standing on the sidelines praying to God that we didn't slip into a depression. Obama's understanding of the economy kept us from sliding off the edge and into 20% or 30% unemployment. republicans hated the stimulus so much they took credit for the jobs it created in their districts even though they voted against it and lied about the jobs it created.

Yeah. I got that "basic understanding of business and economics" right here.

Trump called Bush evil and said he was the worst President in US history back in 2008. The more ya know...

[The Great Catpiss]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Trump called Bush evil and said he was the worst President in US history back in 2008. The more ya know...

LOL...
"Where was ____ when Bush was president?" default deflection shot down.


It appears Bush may still be in office.