9/11 facts to discuss...

[creativedreams]

Facts about 9/11 time frame...


The World Trade Centers underwent many months of construction renovations on the elevators and in and around the elevator shafts up to the day of 9/11

The elevator shafts are in and around all the vertical support columns

The World Trade Centers even underwent many months of construction renovations on the vertical support columns up to the day of 9/11

The company that did the construction renovations on the World Trade Centers has worked hand and hand with Controlled Demolitions Inc

It even states on the Controlled Demolitions Inc website they do classified controlled demolitions for the U.S. government Defense Dept on sensitive projects both internationally and domestically

Controlled Demolitions Inc helped with the cleanup at ground zero as did the company that did the many months of construction renovations

The company who did the many months of construction renovations on the World Trade Centers up to the day of 9/11 had its CEO appointed by then Pres Bush to the Presidents Commission on White House Fellows

The weekend before the trade centers were destroyed there were complete power downs in the buildings and security was completely off.

There were Israeli Mossad proven to be working in and around the World Trade Centers also

There were Israeli Mossad arrested and on the News during the 9/11 time frame near the World Trade Centers with evidence of explosives and held in jail for months until word came from the top of the pyramid scheme to deport them

Some of the Israeli Mossad arrested near the World Trade Centers with evidence of explosives were proven to be active in the Israeli Military and explosive experts

Again...the company that did many months of construction renovations on the World Trade Centers up to the day of 9/11...along with the complete power downs and security loss the weekend before 9/11....and Israeli Mossad Military explosive experts in and around the World Trade Centers....also The CEO of the construction company doing renovations on the support columns getting appointed by Pres Bush to the Presidents Commission on White House Fellows.......starts to paint a picture how easy it would be to pull it off.

Not to mention...

it was proven the Israeli Mossad were in the U.S and among the terrorists that got on the planes....did they lure the willing terrorists or set the terrorists into the direction to be on the planes to frame them?

It was slipped into the news only a couple months before 9/11 that a Boeing plane was remote operated successfully flying it and landing it without a pilot. This was developed to take over passenger planes by the office of counter terrorism in the event they were hijacked....

Did they remote fly the planes into the World Trade Centers to get world support to obtain one of the most strategic squares on the worlds chessboard?....after the willing terrorists (proven to have active Israeli Mossad among them) were lured or set onto the planes to frame?

There was some type of command bunker built on the 23rd floor of World Trade Center 7 with an office for counter terrorism which was built with its floors, walls, windows etc reinforced making it some type of skybox...

This floor which had the office for counter terrorism had millions spent on it reinforcing the floors walls, windows etc basically making it a tree fort or some type of sky bunker within sight of the Twin Towers.

Was this floor the cockpit for remote operating the planes on 9/11?
Was this floor used to visually see the exact impact points on the Twin Towers to set the sequence for the wireless explosives?

Note: The Pentagon too was undergoing construction renovations in the exact area that was affected on 9/11. The Pentagon just happened to get hit in the only area of the building that was undergoing a construction renovation. The Pentagon just happened to get hit in the only area of the building completed with a project to reinforce it's walls for a possible impact.



During the 9/11 time frame the white house staff began taking Cipro, an anthrax antidote, about a month before 9/11....

During the 9/11 time frame we had an anthrax attack 1 week after 9/11....

Soon after the anthrax scare to influence the masses it began to be released to the media the anthrax had a component in it which would prove it had to of come from Iraq....

The anthrax attack one week after 9/11 would have been a link from the "terrorist sleeper cells" here in the U.S. to the "mobile weapons labs" in Iraq....

A U.S. scientist then proved the anthrax was a weaponized strain that came from a military base right here in the U.S....

A U.S. scientist then "commit suicide"....

Was this another attempt to influence the masses and gain world support to move chess pieces on the world's chessboard?

Again.....interesting fact how just before 9/11 the white house staff began taking Cipro, the anthrax antidote, about a month before 9/11....which also was about a month before the anthrax attack....

Again.....interesting fact how just before 9/11 technology was developed specifically to take over Boeing planes by the office of counter terrorism with remote operation in the event they were hijacked....

Again.....interesting fact how just before 9/11 there was some type of tree fort or sky bunker built on a high floor in World Trade Center Building 7 with an office for counter terrorism which had its floors, walls, windows etc reinforced

[creativedreams]

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

Is that a fact?

These are all indisputable facts in which anyone can verify...I was not a birther and am not into any other conspiracies and never have been until I tried to "debunk" 9/11 but actually realized there truly are many disturbing indisputable core facts surrounding the event.

Sure there is a lot of b.s. disinfo on the net about 9/11 that creates a huge smokescreen around the core verifiable facts which made it a daunting task to research the event and verify what is true or not....

Every fact posted above is indisputable and can be verified with legitimate sources...many of which were even on the news...

[wanna be drummer]

Anyone who knows anything about science agrees that it was not a demolition.

I'm sorry, but this is not debatable. To say otherwise requires a gross ignorance of physics and chemistry.

[Salty Dog]

The NJ State Police shot and killed 3 armed Arab men who tried gaining access to the Liberty Island ferry on 9/11. The contents in their van were revealed to be a massive amount of anthrax. It has never been made public to this day.

The US government had nothing to do with that, either.

[creativedreams]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

The NJ State Police shot and killed 3 armed Arab men who tried gaining access to the Liberty Island ferry on 9/11. The contents in their van were revealed to be a massive amount of anthrax. It has never been made public to this day.

The US government had nothing to do with that, either.

Can you verify this with any legitimate sources?

[wanna be drummer]

Originally Posted by creativedreams

Can you verify this with any legitimate sources?

Judging by what you seem define as "legitimate" and "fact", I'm assuming I could get you to believe Leprechauns are real.

[willis]

Originally Posted by creativedreams

Every fact posted above is indisputable and can be verified with legitimate sources...many of which were even on the news...

here's the funny thing, when someone has an indisputable fact that has a legitimate source to verify it; they tend to post the source when they post the fact.

otherwise you come off as an a child that has yet to understand the whole correlation does not imply causation thing that happens in life.

[Salty Dog]

Originally Posted by creativedreams

Can you verify this with any legitimate sources?

Other than from a direct source (she is a NJ State Park Ranger), no. But she was there and her husband works with my father. That's good enough for me.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

Other than from a direct source (she is a NJ State Park Ranger), no. But she was there and her husband works with my father. That's good enough for me.

Then no, you have no real evidence.

[illavbill]

All that shit you posted is bullshit. There have been MANY legitimate scientific studies about this shit. A HUGE FUCKING AIRPLANE crashed into the tower at HUNDREDS of MPH with many many thousands of gallons of fuel on board. What happens when you add a shit ton of air to a fire? It gets HOT AS FUCK, ever heard of a blast furnace? The steel loses half of its structural strength when it just gets halfway to its melting point. What do you think happens when just a SINGLE floor falls onto the one below and so on and so forth. Momentum and gravity are a bitch.

There is no thermite or any other bullshit you might mention sorry.

IF, and maybe IF there was a conspiracy to let the towers get hit it would have been by the intelligence community and Bush & Co ignoring warnings. There isn't really proof of that either. Yeah, there are memo's saying AlQ wanted to hit buildings with planes but it didn't give a day or time or flight numbers. I disliked Bush a bunch but this stupid ass conspiracy theory shit has got to stop the people arguing it all look like a bunch of idiots. There was a wonderful documentary on discovery or history that went through every single one of the "truthers' " claims and scientifically proved them wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. Their response was to question the methods when none of them had the scientific or engineering credentials that the scientists had.

Ughh this shit disgusts me. You REALLY think some shit like this could be pulled off with out a SINGLE person saying anything?

[willis]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

Other than from a direct source (she is a NJ State Park Ranger), no. But she was there and her husband works with my father. That's good enough for me.

what benefit is there to hiding this part of the story?? It's not like crisis was averted that day and this would be a huge news story making us seem unsafe as a country, it was kind of a bad day overall. making this part public would have zero additional impact.

[Salty Dog]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Then no, you have no real evidence.

I personally do not have real evidence. Yet, I believe my father who has been a stand up citizen his entire life when he puts his faith in a trusted coworker's story. Just because you have no instinct to believe me doesn't mean I give a fuck what you think constitutes anything. I believe in my father.

Originally Posted by willis

what benefit is there to hiding this part of the story?? It's not like crisis was averted that day and this would be a huge news story making us seem unsafe as a country, it was kind of a bad day overall. making this part public would have zero additional impact.

I agree and I also think that was the point at the time. It was felt as "why bombard the news cycle with another possible attack" scenario. I don't agree with covering it up but I do understand why it hasn't been made public.

[tobekobe]

Truth is always only be in so few hands

[David]

Originally Posted by tobekobe

Truth is always only be in so few hands

A person is smart. People are stupid, panicky animals.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Salty Dog

I personally do not have real evidence. Yet, I believe my father who has been a stand up citizen his entire life when he puts his faith in a trusted coworker's story. Just because you have no instinct to believe me doesn't mean I give a fuck what you think constitutes anything. I believe in my father.

Yet my family stories about the Hatfields/McCoys were less believable to you for some reason...

[David]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Yet my family stories about the Hatfields/McCoys were less believable to you for some reason...

Because those stories made it out to be minor, never mind the murders and near war.