Richard A. Muller: The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism - WSJ.com Originally Posted by article By RICHARD A. MULLER Are you a global warming skeptic? There are plenty of good reasons why you might be. As many as 757 stations in the United States recorded net surface-temperature cooling over the past ...
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| Global Warming Real says King Skeptic Scientist Richard A. Muller: The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism - WSJ.com Originally Posted by article
I know it won't end the debate now that their most cited scientist has changed course...but one day the awakening will happen. His study. http://berkeleyearth.org/
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| Originally Posted by article Another opinion piece in the WaPo that cites this article and study.
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| I've always believed in climate change. I was just hesitant to state how much human influence actually had excellerated it. My stance from day 1 has always been it just takes a simple understanding of a high school science text book to understand how these things happen and how we are continually dooming ourselves. The most important thing to remember is the opposition has a powerful microphone because it is heavily funded by the billions in the current energy sector. The scientific evidence is there though to dispute any opposition ten-fold. That's why I've always favored green energy (done right) and fail to understand the argument against it, especially now of all times when the US could be reinventing world energy capacities and jumpstarting our economy to last well into the century. Only a moron thinks breathing in diesel fumes has no consequences on your lungs. And these same blowhards are the ones who do not have vision for our future nor care how we destroy ourselves in the present. Last edited by Salty Dog; 10-25-2011 at 10:51 PM.. | ||||
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| Just to be fair, most "skeptics" don't dispute the fact that the earth is warming. many admit that it is in fact warming, because we can see the physical evidence of it all over the place. From the melting of ice sheets to the early blooming of the cherry trees in Washington DC. The disagreement is around what is causing the warming. The study you posted made no such assertions as far as cause. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 That's because I too believe that there's no way to effectively tell if humans are adding to it. I think it's bad we shit up our environment...but I don't really see any conclusive proof we do anything to exacerbate the issue.
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| Originally Posted by Donkey® Maybe we do not have as much of an effect as some think we do, but I think we can all agree that since the atmosphere is finite and made of molecular elements, if we pump excess molecular crap elements into it, it will all interact (and probably not in a good way). I'm not informed enough to debate precise data, but that general premise makes logical sense - at least to me.
And like you said, it's bad to shit up the environment. I mean, does anyone look at power plant smoke stacks billowing filth into the air and say "Yeah, that's the stuff?" No one I know. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman
Then since everything is finite, instead of probably's and conjecture, someone should be able to show actual proof. It's not easy, I know, but until then, I have problem with people questioning that aspect of global warming. | ||||
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| It's because the global climate system is infinately complex and impossible to test. You can test the impact of any single factor because there are 1000 other factors all changing and all acting at the same time. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by leonardino you don't know what you're talking about. The hole in the o-zone layer isn't caused by CO2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that doesn't break down for something like 10K years. It lets light in but also stops heat from getting out. Read up a little bit
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