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Old 11-09-2006, 05:04 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Last I heard, if you don't work, the government will take care of you.
When I was out of work and desperate, they told me to go blow myself.

So that's not really true.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:06 PM   #62
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So you're advocating massive welfare programs so no one needs to work rather than providing a livable wage for those who seek to make some type of life for themselves?

Nope.

I'm advocating getting rid of welfare - in ALL of it's forms, one of which is "minimum wage."
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:06 PM   #63
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the minimum wage raise passed in Ohio

I of course voted against it
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:07 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
When I was out of work and desperate, they told me to go blow myself.

So that's not really true.


You're obviously too white.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:09 PM   #65
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You're obviously too white.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:11 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Nope.

I'm advocating getting rid of welfare - in ALL of it's forms, one of which is "minimum wage."
At least that would create a lot of law enforcement jobs when people decide to turn to crime rather than carry bricks 14 hours a day for pennies.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:11 PM   #67
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Last I heard, if you don't work, the government will take care of you.
Clinton really improved things in this area. This is no longer the case, and Clinton is responsible for it. I think this was one of his greatest accomplishments.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:14 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
At least that would create a lot of law enforcement jobs when people decide to turn to crime rather than carry bricks 14 hours a day for pennies.
We'd also have an influx of prostitutes because selling your body is probably more lucrative than selling your labor for pennies.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:19 PM   #69
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
We'd also have an influx of prostitutes because selling your body is probably more lucrative than selling your labor for pennies.
prostitution should be legal
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:20 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
We'd also have an influx of prostitutes because selling your body is probably more lucrative than selling your labor for pennies.
And?
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:22 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
Clinton really improved things in this area. This is no longer the case, and Clinton is responsible for it. I think this was one of his greatest accomplishments.
him and congress
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:22 PM   #72
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Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo View Post
We'd also have an influx of prostitutes because selling your body is probably more lucrative than selling your labor for pennies.
then most OTers could finally get laid, I have no problem with this
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:23 PM   #73
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
At least that would create a lot of law enforcement jobs when people decide to turn to crime rather than carry bricks 14 hours a day for pennies.

Ending welfare != chaos and the poor revolting.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:24 PM   #74
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Ending welfare != chaos and the poor revolting.
I bet that citizens might do those jobs that "americans won't do"
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:33 PM   #75
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
And?
I could care less about prostitutes...but as a practical matter, most people who oppose minimum wage are not libertarians. They're conservatives, i.e., the type of people who don't like "immoral" acts such as prostitution and would want it prosecuted heavily.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:13 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
I'm more than willing to discuss getting people off of it.

Time limits and criteria like actively seeking work would go a long way.
holy shit we agree
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:27 PM   #77
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The minimum wage is the US isn't that high anyways is it?

Australia has a min wage of about $US 10.50 (thanks wiki)
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:53 PM   #78
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The minimum wage is the US isn't that high anyways is it?

Australia has a min wage of about $US 10.50 (thanks wiki)
Yes Australia is paying that much and they are going to hell because of it. Their economy is a basket case. I don't know but I bet you we have a Trade deficit with them like we do with almost every country in the world. We are going in debt by the billions to everyone. We are the basket case. We are so far gone we will never find our way.
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:03 PM   #79
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Yes Australia is paying that much and they are going to hell because of it. Their economy is a basket case.
Not really, there is no solid evidence that indicates minimum wages have a serious impact on the economies of nations.

Australia's economy is in growth, though there have been a number of interest rate rises lately
 
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:07 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Ending welfare != chaos and the poor revolting.
If you ended minimum wage along with it? I'm not so sure.
 
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