So now that Republicans are the minority...

[Donkey®]

Will the same people still say "Oh stop crying about being the minority...it doesn't mean that you can't do anything"? I always found that line of thought amazing. The Democrats, who had no power at all, were chastized left and right for not being able to "do anything" except things like Fillibuster to try and "obstruct" the Republicans from doing whatever they wanted.

[JaJae]

The Republicans aren't in as much of a minority. But now the Democrats and liberals have to understand that everything negative in this country is their fault. If I stub my toe on the coffee table I'm blaming Pelosi. The last 6 years taught me this is how it's supposed to work.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by JaJae

The Republicans aren't in as much of a minority. But now the Democrats and liberals have to understand that everything negative in this country is their fault. If I stub my toe on the coffee table I'm blaming Pelosi. The last 6 years taught me this is how it's supposed to work.

If Hillary Clinton were president, you might have a point

But the buck stops at only one place, and it wasn't with Denny Hastert and sure as shit won't be with Nancy Pelosi

[JaJae]

So when the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, everything was their fault.

When the Republicans were in power under Clinton everything was there fault.

But now that we have a Republican president everything is still the Republican's fault. Interesting. No accountability for their own party.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

So when the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, everything was their fault.

When the Republicans were in power under Clinton everything was there fault.

But now that we have a Republican president everything is still the Republican's fault. Interesting. No accountability for their own party.

But according to you guys...

When the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, everything was the Democrats fault.

When the Republicans were in power under Clinton everything was Clintons fault.

But now that we have a Republican president and a Demoratic congress everything will still be the Democrats fault.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Originally Posted by JaJae

The Republicans aren't in as much of a minority. But now the Democrats and liberals have to understand that everything negative in this country is their fault. If I stub my toe on the coffee table I'm blaming Pelosi. The last 6 years taught me this is how it's supposed to work.

Never mind what they tell you. Go ahead blame Pelosi. You learned well those 6 years.
If the Democrats were not blaming Bush they blamed, Cheny, Rumsfield, Rice, Rove etc. You see it was always thier right to pick who they wanted to blame.
You have the same right.
However remember this your rights are never as important as thier rights
this I learned long before the last 6 years.
I will give just one good example.
They have the right to tell you that you earned too much money.
So it is thier right to take more money from you ,taxes, to give to others people that did not work, will not work and depend upon them for housing, food, medical care and a cash check .
Now a common man would believe this is out and out buying those people's vote. Wrong, it is merely the Democrats teaching you and others that they know best about your personal finances.
They decided you do not need that money and the mere fact you are the one that worked for it is nothing.
They know best.
Prove me wrong anybody..._ Tyr

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

Never mind what they tell you. Go ahead blame Pelosi. You learned well those 6 years.
If the Democrats were not blaming Bush they blamed, Cheny, Rumsfield, Rice, Rove etc. You see it was always thier right to pick who they wanted to blame.
You have the same right.
However remember this your rights are never as important as thier rights
this I learned long before the last 6 years.
I will give just one good example.
They have the right to tell you that you earned too much money.
So it is thier right to take more money from you ,taxes, to give to others people that did not work, will not work and depend upon them for housing, food, medical care and a cash check .
Now a common man would believe this is out and out buying those people's vote. Wrong, it is merely the Democrats teaching you and others that they know best about your personal finances.
They decided you do not need that money and the mere fact you are the one that worked for it is nothing.
They know best.
Prove me wrong anybody..._ Tyr

I must have missed the part where the Republicans did anything to fix welfare.

The Republicans know better how to spend your money as well, they just spend it in different areas and spend just as much.
Then they make tax cuts and run up the debit so future generations can pay it.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

I must have missed the part where the Republicans did anything to fix welfare.

The Republicans know better how to spend your money as well, they just spend it in different areas and spend just as much.
Then they make tax cuts and run up the debit so future generations can pay it.

You are correct !!
The Republicans did spend shall I say as bad as Democrats but the social programs I referenced were the handywork of Democrats.
Many of those programs are decades old.
What is the difference between tax cuts that help people and multi billion dollar social programs that have had negative effects.
Both run up debts as you stated. However the tax cuts stimulated economic growth while the other turned many people into government welfare leeches.
The Republicans recieved a slap this election for thier over spending . I know that I held them accountable and took action about that also._Tyr

[Nonphixion]

Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

You are correct !!
The Republicans did spend shall I say as bad as Democrats but the social programs I referenced were the handywork of Democrats.
Many of those programs are decades old.
What is the difference between tax cuts that help people and multi billion dollar social programs that have had negative effects.
Both run up debts as you stated. However the tax cuts stimulated economic growth while the other turned many people into government welfare leeches.
The Republicans recieved a slap this election for thier over spending . I know that I held them accountable and took action about that also._Tyr

Spend "as bad as Democrats"?

The Bush administration walked into the helm of an America with the highest budget surplus in ALL 220+ years of US history. And the Republican Whitehouse managed to turn this massive surplus around into the biggest deficit on earth; in any government of all time.

And one needs only to examine evidence to find exactly that; The "global network terrorist threat" isn't a reality and never has been. The tactic of terrorism is a complex one, and any terrorist groups themselves have always been disparate entities. But you will see that the Neocons molded this disparate threat it into one over-arching enemy with fingers and "cells in 90 countries across the globe" (Rumsfeld quote on Al-Qaeda) in order to scare the American people with a false phantom enemy. In an order to push their own ... Struassian agenda upon this nation and unite us under a single (albeit false and deceitful) cause.

[DosEquis]

"Spend as bad as democrats" is a ridiculous statement. While they both spend outrageous amounts of money, democrats have been the party of fiscal responsibility. There is an actual cost that people feel when they pass things. Whether you want to give credit to clinton or not, he did sign one of the most comprehensive welfare reform bills ever. Sure the republican congress may have come up with it, but he could have veto'd it just the same.

The last three republican presidents have been responsible or signed spending bills which have amounted to 79% of our debt. 10% of the debt came from 1776-1980. The other 10% came from 1992-2000.

Democrats are the spenders though.

[ballz2wallz]

It's recently been suggested that Republicans, while still the minority, may actually do some good and try to filibuster the immigration issue.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

It's recently been suggested that Republicans, while still the minority, may actually do some good and try to filibuster the immigration issue.

Filibustering immigration is a good thing?

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Filibustering immigration is a good thing?

I believe keeping that amnesty bill from going through is a good thing.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

I believe keeping that amnesty bill from going through is a good thing.

I dont care at this pint if there's amnesty or not, I want the damned border secure and I want it secure in 6 months, PERIOD. I dont care what htey have to do to make that happen, just freakin' make it happen already!

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I dont care at this pint if there's amnesty or not, I want the damned border secure and I want it secure in 6 months, PERIOD. I dont care what htey have to do to make that happen, just freakin' make it happen already!

I agree, but his issue is separate from the border. This issue is about what to do with the illegals that are here.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

I agree, but his issue is separate from the border. This issue is about what to do with the illegals that are here.

I know that, but someone needs to fix the damn border problem.

[DosEquis]

Not to mention, "fixing" the illegal problem without fixing the border first is like scooping water out of the boat before fixing the hole.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Not to mention, "fixing" the illegal problem without fixing the border first is like scooping water out of the boat before fixing the hole.

I think we'd all agree with that. Unfortunately, the government is attempting to do just that.

[Thorgrim]

Unfortunately, they already passed an immigration bill in the senate...all that is needed now is for the democratic house to pass the exact same bill, and there can be no filibuster

oh snap

[Thomas Crown]

I've never used that line, so no.