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Old 07-06-2012, 10:48 AM   #1
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Patents are well past Ridiculous

Google Confirms Galaxy Nexus Sales Stopped in Apple-Samsung Case, Fix Coming Next Week - ABC News

Apple said it already holds a patent for a “universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system.”
Usually when crap this stupid actually gets a patent it gets overturned in court, but not this time. If this is the case google's search box you can install on windows computers violates the patent as well. This search feature was also available on the Logitech Revue I had.

The defense of the patent system I always hear is that it will stifle innovation if we don't protect new ideas. This idea is neither new nor innovative, but Google's solution to this so far is to hand consumers a worse product by disabling the phone search feature. A study that came out estimated patent troll costs at $29 billion last year.

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Old 07-06-2012, 01:20 PM   #2
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I'm so sick of this Apple vs Google bull. Apple's products are all hype and they're using these bullshit patents to stop Google from making phones that are better. I read somewhere that Samsung --- not an American company provides more jobs in America than Apple does.
 
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:30 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by illavbill View Post
I'm so sick of this Apple vs Google bull. Apple's products are all hype and they're using these bullshit patents to stop Google from making phones that are better. I read somewhere that Samsung --- not an American company provides more jobs in America than Apple does.
It's hardly just apple versus google. Samsung is suing everyone too. In fact, most tech companies are involved in lawsuits at the moment. Google was the exception because everyone seemed afraid to sue them, but no more.

Meet The Patent Thicket: Who's Suing Who For Smartphone Patents | Techdirt
 
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I think patents have their place but I also think they need to be limited. A search box? Really? There are search boxes everywhere that perform that same exact function. In Linux, Windows, in browsers of all types. This judge was an idiot.

This was just a calculated move to create extra cost for a competitor. A great example of the system being abused. And many of them do it.
 
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Samsung is closely aligned with Microsoft for their surface tablets and surface computer. Google is google.

Might we see a day where they gang up on Apple? What if one day an Apple OS device couldn't use Bing or Google?
 
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
Samsung is closely aligned with Microsoft for their surface tablets and surface computer. Google is google.

Might we see a day where they gang up on Apple? What if one day an Apple OS device couldn't use Bing or Google?
Why gang up on apple, its hardly a threat to Microsoft
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Originally Posted by stolz25 View Post
Google Confirms Galaxy Nexus Sales Stopped in Apple-Samsung Case, Fix Coming Next Week - ABC News



Usually when crap this stupid actually gets a patent it gets overturned in court, but not this time. If this is the case google's search box you can install on windows computers violates the patent as well. This search feature was also available on the Logitech Revue I had.

The defense of the patent system I always hear is that it will stifle innovation if we don't protect new ideas. This idea is neither new nor innovative, but Google's solution to this so far is to hand consumers a worse product by disabling the phone search feature. A study that came out estimated patent troll costs at $29 billion last year.

The Direct Costs from NPE Disputes by James Bessen, Michael Meurer :: SSRN
So, what is your point?
You think patents are good or bad? Is it simply patent trolling that is bad? I could get on board with the latter.
 
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Originally Posted by wanna be drummer View Post
Why gang up on apple, its hardly a threat to Microsoft
They should squash them now. Mostly because I hate them.
 
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:30 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
Samsung is closely aligned with Microsoft for their surface tablets and surface computer. Google is google.

Might we see a day where they gang up on Apple? What if one day an Apple OS device couldn't use Bing or Google?
They also make almost all of Apple's insides
 
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:41 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
They should squash them now. Mostly because I hate them.
Agreed. Apple has done some nice things in its history, but now it just markets products for hipsters, douchebags, and wannabe musicians. Embarassing really
 
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Originally Posted by wanna be drummer View Post
and wannabe musicians.

ahem...

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Old 07-06-2012, 06:48 PM   #12
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:12 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by SonicBoom View Post
So, what is your point?
You think patents are good or bad? Is it simply patent trolling that is bad? I could get on board with the latter.
My point was that patents in their current form do more harm than good. No patents would be better than this.
 
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Originally Posted by wanna be drummer View Post
Agreed. Apple has done some nice things in its history, but now it just markets products for hipsters, douchebags, and wannabe musicians. Embarassing really
I read that to mean crush microsoft.
 
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:45 PM   #15
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A few weeks ago Samsung had to stop all sales on the Galaxy Tab.

Judge Upholds Sales Ban on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 | Gadget Lab | Wired.com
 
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:49 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by stolz25 View Post
I read that to mean crush microsoft.
Didnt even think of that, perhaps dos will explain?
 
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