Voter Fraud

Thomas Crown · 11-14-2006, 10:26 AM

I had a thought the other day (a rare occurrence) about what happened in the past two Presidential elections when Republicans pretty much swept everything. There were people whining constantly about voter fraud, the Diebold machines, miscounting, etc.

Now that the Democrats have won back the majority, is there somehow now no chance of voter fraud? The system hasn't changed.

It just erks me to no end that the ONLY way the Republicans could have won was via voter fraud, but the same cannot possibly be true about the Democrats.

Thoughts?

Nonphixion · 11-14-2006, 10:43 AM

All electronic machines without paper receipts were susceptible to malicious code in this election, and yes given such circumstances, this election was designed to ensure a Democratic majority.

AVengeance · 11-14-2006, 11:02 AM

To the OP: you're assuming that there are good guys and bad guys. This is simply not the case. The electronic voting system was set up to ensure that the two-party (actually, it's only one, but it LOOKS like two) system stays intact. The elite can't have their pendelum swing messed up by some 3rd party loon, so they invented the whole conspiracy with hanging chads and other nonsense in order to force this easily corruptable system on us.

See, both the Dems and Reps have one thing in mind: maintaining the status quo. There is a make-believe pendelum that swings back and forth. It swung left this last election, and maybe it'll swing right by the time the next one happens. Point is, it's left and right. Good cop and bad cop. Liberal and Conservative. And it's a farce. It's the wool pulled over your eyes to hide the truth, that there is only controlling power in this country, and they'll do whatever it takes to stay in power. Don't believe me? Convince EVERYONE you know to vote 3rd party, in just one election, for just one candidate. If everyone did this, the 3rd party vote would be the same it's always been: about 3%. This make it "look" genuine, while ensuring that the Dems and Reps get elected. The elite learned their mistake from Ventura, and I doubt they plan on letting that happen again.

tbone · 11-14-2006, 11:05 AM

Well, at least in my state (Ohio) the Secretary of State who oversees the election and certifies the results is Republican so I doubt their is voter fraud in favor of democrats in this state. In fact he also ran for Governor and lost badly.

Stylerod · 11-14-2006, 11:15 AM

Republicans aren't the sore losers Democrats are?

Thomas Crown · 11-14-2006, 11:21 AM

You've delved a bit too far. Step back and look at it from a far simpler point of view.

Take it from the pov of a college bohemian who was screaming bloody murder the last go round. Why is that boheme not doing the same this time?

I know why, but the question hasn't been asked on any public scale. That is my point.

Thomas Crown · 11-14-2006, 11:23 AM

My point is this, the voter fraud that supposedly happened in '00 and '04 (and the mid terms) was just as ridiculous a concept then as it is now. The claim then, supported one side, now that side is in power, no reason to make said claim.

Just ask the question.

Diamond Cross · 11-14-2006, 12:48 PM

So the question being asked is "why aren't Republicans claiming voter fraud as to get back at the Democrats?".

Why should they?

Thomas Crown · 11-14-2006, 01:34 PM

They shouldn't. Just as it shouldn't have been asserted by the Dems in the first place. No election was "stolen".

tbone · 11-15-2006, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Thomas Crown

They shouldn't. Just as it shouldn't have been asserted by the Dems in the first place. No election was "stolen".

You seem to be missing some convenient facts. Florida was a major issue in previous elections when the dems lost and a republican was overseeing the results. Some serious questions came up about the hanging chads and throwing out those ballots or making them invalid, but it seemed to focus only on primarily liberal (low income and immigrant) counties.

This year, republicans still oversaw the elections, but safeguards were put into place to stop those problems from the last elections and the democrats won. So who are the republicans going to complain to? Themselves?

They oversaw the elections in the form of secretary of state in a majority of the battle ground states.

Maybe I'm jus missing your point, but the complaints last time were for disenfranchised voters and serious mistakes that were acknowledged by both parties. The problems were mostly fixed primarily by GOP members who held the appropriate offices.

ballz2wallz · 11-15-2006, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Thomas Crown

I had a thought the other day (a rare occurrence) about what happened in the past two Presidential elections when Republicans pretty much swept everything. There were people whining constantly about voter fraud, the Diebold machines, miscounting, etc.

Now that the Democrats have won back the majority, is there somehow now no chance of voter fraud? The system hasn't changed.

It just erks me to no end that the ONLY way the Republicans could have won was via voter fraud, but the same cannot possibly be true about the Democrats.

Thoughts?

The only two places where this mess could have occurred was Montana and Virginia. In both places, the Republicans quickly stepped down and conceded, as they should have. We already know from past experiences the Democrats wouldn't have done that as quickly.