Senator Boxer unleashed on the Environment:

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

He was just on TV talking about how Timberland is carbon neutral and every company should be

Timberland

Doesn't say it specifically but I am sure he wasn't lying on television...their goal is to be completely carbon neurtal by 2010

So wait. Are they or aren't they?

[Nonphixion]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Not surprising, she's a raging liberal and like many in washington prefers to make rash decisions based on partial facts and refuses to look at the big picture.

She'll preach that we need to rid ourselves of foreign oil but wont do a damn thing about it. She'll bitch and moan about Oil and Natural Gas prices and we're sitting a shit ton of NG and yet we can't get it...why? Politicians like her block millions upon millions of acres for exploration, areas that are known to be rich in natural resources.

She's a joke as is her reckless environmental policy.

It should be stated that; the man she is replacing on this Environmental Committee wanted to disband the Environmental Protection Agency and repeal all EPA standards. This woman, however clearly more liberal than he, is a much better choice for a government committee on the environment.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by Nonphixion

It should be stated that; the man she is replacing on this Environmental Committee wanted to disband the Environmental Protection Agency and repeal all EPA standards. This woman, however clearly more liberal than he, is a much better choice for a government committee on the environment.

You realize the EPA is not constitutional?

[AVengeance]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

And Mars is coming out of a ice age at this very moment. Coincidence? Or are Martians driving too many SUV's?

SPACE.com -- Mars Emerging from Ice Age, Data Suggest

Woo hoo! I'm building Ark II, a spaceship that'll take my family to Mars. With the imending global warming, it should be about right to bring my Jetski.

Back to the beginning of this thread, I don't think the liberal enviro-wackos could bear to pick on Hollywoodland. They NEED those people to be on their side.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Go back and read all the conservative books (one example: "see I told you so" by Rush Limbaugh) from the early 90s, they all talk about ozone being a big hoax, and they have scientists to back up their positions too!

Who took Rush seriously on science issues? Go back and read about the "Acid Rain" scare of the 80's if you want a lesson in bad science and politcal scare tactics.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Who took Rush seriously on science issues? Go back and read about the "Acid Rain" scare of the 80's if you want a lesson in bad science and politcal scare tactics.

Thats a pretty good point, I was a science geek as a kid and subscribed to a few science publications including the usual Popular Science

I remember reading numerous articles about acid rain and how by the turn of the century the vast majority of the planet would experience major problems due to acid rain. Needless to say that didn't pan out.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Thats a pretty good point, I was a science geek as a kid and subscribed to a few science publications including the usual Popular Science

I remember reading numerous articles about acid rain and how by the turn of the century the vast majority of the planet would experience major problems due to acid rain. Needless to say that didn't pan out.

There were enormous environmental improvements made in the mid70s and 80s when those articles were being written

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

There were enormous environmental improvements made in the mid70s and 80s when those articles were being written

No!

Natural Emissions were a major factor. They still are. And the panic models were just plain wrong. That is why the subject is so dead with the environmental groups. If they could really take any substantial credit for averting a disaster they would scream it from the rooftops!

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

No!

Natural Emissions were a major factor. They still are. And the panic models were just plain wrong. That is why the subject is so dead with the environmental groups. If they could really take any substantial credit for averting a disaster they would scream it from the rooftops!

yeah its a total fraud Acid Rain Home | Acid Rain | US EPA

[Kytro]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

You realize the EPA is not constitutional?

I don't think that matters anymore. It matters only if you can convince judges that it is so.

[Vietvet]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Excellent, we're going to spend dollars and days on something that isn't even known to be truth.

This is about as useful as a hole in my head.

Global warming has been accepted by the vast majority of reputable scientists and meterologists in the world. James InHofe, idiot that he is, and a few other so-called "experts" who work for the RNC continue to push the crap that gobal warming is some kind of hoax by the left. All anyone of moderate intelligence would have to do to confirm that something is amiss is look at the fact that the ice is melting at the poles at an accelerated pace never before seen. The term "State of Denial" can be applied across the board to the Republican party, come to think of iteny that global warming is occuring, deny the need to do something about the sorry state of health care access in this country, deny that we are in a quagmire and caught in the middle of a civil war in Iraq, deny that their party is run by crooks, liars and thieves who don't give a shit about the average wage earner in this country, only the wealthy. Well, the right lost BIG TIME in this last election, it's high time for change, and change is coming, whether some of you like it or not. You on the right can deny all you want. Reality is fixin' to give you a wake-up call.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Vietvet

Global warming has been accepted by the vast majority of reputable scientists and meterologists in the world.

No, no it hasn't, but certainly you can create another thread if you want to get owned (joke!)...I mean, if you want to debate it.

[R-Type]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Excellent, we're going to spend dollars and days on something that isn't even known to be truth.

This is about as useful as a hole in my head.

Well, we spend millions towards religious interests and religion is not known to be 'the truth' either.