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Old 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by motivez
I would say being in control of ones borders is an important aspect of being an autonomous nation
chicken---->egg

I would say that as well.......so maybe they should take the international community's offer to become a sovereign nation and take control of their borders.
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #22
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Westerners really don't get the whole picture. I gave up trying to explain the Palestine thing.
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby
Westerners really don't get the whole picture. I gave up trying to explain the Palestine thing.
it's about water......what's so hard to understand?
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:39 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by 7960
it's about water......what's so hard to understand?
It's about a group of nomads ignoring world events and disregarding proposals that were being made by the rest of the world. Then later realizing that nomadic cultures are a thing of the past and retrospectively getting pissed off about a proposal to take their land from them. The British Mandate was thievery. The Jews did not own the land. The Jews were dumped there because America refused to take 'em. The world said, "Hey look. These guys are nomads. They won't give a shit. Let's dump the Jews here. They like it there anyway."

That's how the Palestinians view it, anyway. Can you blame them? Their land was just stolen from them. I'd be pretty fuckin' pissed. I could even see people getting pissed off enough to release propaganda and teach the younger generations how horrible these newfound "settlers" are. Hell, I'll go so far to say that I could even see them being so mad that everyone that is on the settlers' side must be one of them as well. These people think that Americans are Jews. They think the American media is influenced and run by Jews. They think Ruport Murdock is a Jew. Yeah, it's entirely understandable how they got to that point. They're demanding these people that just stole their land to gtfo, and nobody is even attempting to help them out.


But again, I don't particularly care a whole lot about it. Both sides are religious, and I don't care for religious people. They'll go to a "better place" anyway. Fuckit. Letting them fight it out until one concedes would be the quickest way to resolve the issue.
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:44 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by motivez
Can you show me a time when it's been offered that they would have been in control of their borders, services, etc that's been recent?
Camp David 2000.
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:45 PM   #26
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The real answer is that the Palestinians don't want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution.
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 07:01 PM   #27
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Closest it has beome to being a nation is when they were recently give control over the Gaza Strip and Israel completely pulled out. But I dont believe the world recognized them.
 
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Old 07-31-2006, 07:11 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by archangel003
The real answer is that the Palestinians don't want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution.
If my home was taken away, I'd have the same position, though it take a thousand years, they will be win back their old lives and be free
 
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